Talk:Society for Healthcare Strategy and Market Development

This article was nominated for deletion on 14 September 2008 (UTC). The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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On Notability

I realize that any new page, especially one previously deleted, has an immediate struggle for notability and therefore credibility. I ask anyone with questions of notability to please look at the list of professional organizations and consider SHSMD’s place among them, especially give it’s 4,500+ membership and connection with the American Hospital Association. Personally, I have gone in and vetted this information from suggestions by Wiki admins to improve it from its lithe former selves.Dbrowell (talk) 00:02, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, permission to reproduce terminology from SHSMD’s website has been given and proof submitted to permissions-en(at)wikipedia. Dbrowell (talk) 00:02, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Article has been edited to address nom's evolving concerns... as for advertisement's for events, I am not sure what multiple non-trivial reliable sources would qualify to prove the group has a conference, but I have tried to accommodate. Please advise on progress, as much of what may count as "verifiable" is not online, I fear. I don't feel this page has issues that are different from the majority of Wikipedia pages, IMHO. Dbrowell (talk) 07:13, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still trying to clean up per deletion discussion page... I have added and replaced some sources, including articles from Hospital & Health Networks Magazine, a published dissertation featuring SHSMD data, and knocked out a few sources that were considered unreliable. I guess it's particularly frustrating when there are entries for groups such as the American Marketing Association which has no active sources, and also take the American Nursing Association which uses only their own Nursing World primary source website as sources.Dbrowell (talk) 01:26, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Those two associations you mention have books citing them; the latter has a book dedicated to its history. So they are more notable by Wikipedia's guidelines for organizations: WP:CORP. VG ☎ 17:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My point was that those two associations at one point last week had gone months with only scant references to their own website without any challenge - my comment was about their verifiability, not their notability 13:31, 21 September 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbrowell (talk • contribs)