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Singer's Recent Arrest

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Anyone have any information on the recent arrest of Tom Simpson? It's definitely something that should be added, but I'm not sure I have enough of the facts to edit this myself.--24.2.18.104 20:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC) Tom Simpson isn't the singer. i think i did hear something about theyre keyboardest getting arrested for something. btw wtf power pop? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.186.64.155 (talk) 03:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Run" in The Guardian and Jericho

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Run has been played rather extensively in the main trailers for The Guardian (2006 film), plus some of the TV spots. This is probably worth a mention.

Also, I think it was played at the end of the series premiere of Jericho (TV Series), but I'm not positive. Can someone verify that? Kendall 16:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Grey's Anatomy and "Somewhere a Clock is Ticking"

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""Chasing Cars" pushed its way onto the download and pop charts after it was heard in the second season finale of the television show Grey's Anatomy on May 15, 2006. Due to the song's surprise popularity, it was released as an overlapping single in early June and the video was re-recorded to include clips from the show."

The song on the May 15 2006 episode of Grey's Anatomy was "Somewhere a Clock is Ticking", not Chasing Cars. However, I have not seen the video for either of the songs, can someone help verify this?

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Both songs were featured in the Season Finale, which was actually a combo of three episodes. "Somewhere a Clock is Ticking" was playing in the last few minutes of the first episode of the Finale. "Chasing Cars" was featured in the last few minutes of the third episode.

"Run" and Doctor Who

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Probably too trivial to go in an encyclopedia article, but Run was played over the end credits of the final episode of Doctor Who Confidential a few days ago, accompanying a montage of scenes from the new series. Loganberry (Talk) 03:41, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I'd say it's significant...that episode of Doctor Who Confidential made me become aware of Snow Patrol, I now have their albums and have their songs downloaded onto my PSP, and Run is now currenlty my favourite song...ever! Just to let you know :) (Jamandell (d69) 00:32, 14 January 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Alternative?

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Is there any point putting both Indie and Alternative? Indie is after all a subgenre of alternative, so surely the latter is redundant? 195.195.166.41 19:34, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually - they should just be put just under alternative...If they are signed to Polydor records how could they be indie rock? Also, the sentence 'Snow Patrol is an indie rock band signed to Polydor records' is a total contradiction...People don't even understand what 'indie rock' means. I'm removing it because its false. - jmccoymoniz@comcast.net

They're self-defined as "alternative". - Tony.

Most people do not consider indie to mean not signed with a major label. Indie has multiple definitions with the most common being independent from mainstream commercial music (which is put out mostly by major labels which leads to the confusion). Also indie is a subset of every musical genre so saying indie does not indicate alternative. - Adrian

For one, this line: "Originally formed as an indie rock band, Snow Patrol have sought a more alternative rock and powerpop sound..." doesn't make much sense. Indie is really a British term for their own alternative music, as they don't use the word "alternative" over there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.94.29.223 (talk) 14:05, 9 October 2007 (UTC) yeah, indie it's not a subgenre of alternative, that's a lie. you could be indie but not alternative —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.102.67.152 (talk) 20:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Indie is used in Britain to signify a band signed to an independant record label, because the word alternative is used. They are 'alternative' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.202.132.202 (talk) 17:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why are descriptions of Snow Patrol as an "indie rock" band being reverted? They originally formed as an indie rock band. Two of their five albums were indie rock. They might not be an indie rock band anymore, but they certainly were when they formed. What is the debate here? That indie rock has different interpretations depending on geography? All you need to do is read the article on indie rock to have all these misconceptions fixed. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 01:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indie? Alternative? They're AOR. Jamrifis (talk) 11:31, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

TOTP

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"The band was the final ever act to perform on long-running BBC music show Top of the Pops with "Chasing Cars" on the show's penultimate edition." Penultimate means the second to last. So either they weren't the final act to perform, or they performed on the final edition. Willnz0 04:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The last episode of Top of the Pops did not have any live performances, and was just a clip show. Therefore the last live performance in the penultimate ep, was the last ever live performance (and incidentally I can't believe I missed it!) Jamandell (d69) 22:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Snow Patrol from Scotland, I think someone needs to correct that as they aint Scottish, they are from here in Northern Ireland, honestly people always like to steal people and say that they belong somewhere where they are not from like CS Lewis. People still think he's English for example. Not Northern Irish !

Snow Patrol exposure

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Some people have noted the exposure Snow Patrol have got in films and TV shows, and I'm aware of a couple that haven't as yet been mentioned. In the hopes that it may turn out to be useful for the article, or just for trivia hunters, I'm compiling a list here.

  • Somewhere a Clock is Ticking
    • Second season finale of Grey's Anatomy on May 15, 2006. Video re-recorded to include clips from the show (in the USA?).
  • Chasing Cars
    • Featured in the last few minutes of the third episode of Grey's Anatomy.
    • One or possibly two Snow Patrol songs have been featured in the series.
    • At least one SP song has been featured in this series.

--Mal 08:27, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Flag

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I removed the flag from this article as I don't think it was adding anything. See also WP:FLAG. --Guinnog 18:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute Regarding Origin (Scotland vs. N.Ireland)

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Being from Scotland and Northern Ireland — None of present nor past members of snow patrol are from Scotland they are all from Northern Ireland this annoys me so much when NI produces talented & people like to nick the people and claim they are from elsewhere like for example CS lewis from Belfast and Born there people think hes from England when in Fact he was Northern Irish ....Snow patrol being based in Scotland does not make them Scottish !!!! they are Northern Irish !!! -- attributed to 81.129.19.47, unsigned (19:03, 7 March 2007)


- Firstly, calm down. The origin listed as Dundee, Scotland is correct because that is where the band, as a musical entity, was first established. The fact that Lightbody and Quinn are from Belfast has no bearing on the stated origin of the band. I point you towards the group Garbage — even though lead singer Shirley Manson is Scottish, the band was formed in Madison, Wisconsin, and therefore, that city is stated as the origin of the band. Now, this isn't to say that Snow Patrol can't exist in a Northern Ireland project or category, but such facts as their origin must be stated as such. (It even states this on Snow Patrol's own official website). -- HawkeAnyone 19:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
HawkeAnyone is right. Infobox musical artist is clear that origin refers to the city in which the group was founded. --Paul Erik 02:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The latest version by Stubacca reads fairly well, and should hopefully suffice. Well done. -- HawkeAnyone 13:15, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well the band considers themselves Northern Irish and all the original members were Northen Irish. And I believe the fact that the band was formed while they were attending a university makes a signifcant difference. 164.111.196.229 11:28, 1 May 2007 (UTC) Adrian[reply]

–They can consider themselves, and their style, "Northern Irish" all they like — that's not the criteria for the "Band Origin" entry. Band Origin states where the band was formed. I again bring up the example of Garbage — Shirley Manson is from Edinburgh, Scotland, Duke Erikson is from Nebraska, USA, Steve Marker is from Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, and Butch Vig is from Viroqua, Wisconsin, USA. The band's origin, though, is stated as Madison, Wisconsin, USA — where the band was formed. Another example is Weezer. No one – not one member – of that band is from Los Angeles. In fact, nearly every member of that group is from either the Midwestern or Eastern US (one of the former guitarists is from Oakland, which is next to San Francisco, and if you ask any Californian, is a vastly different culture than Southern California and Los Angeles). However, the band origin is stated as Los Angeles, California, USA, because, and let me emphasize this emphatically... that is where the band was officially formed.
 Of course the fact the band was formed while they were at a/the university makes a big difference. It gave them an opportunity to meet and form the foundation of the band itself, it cultured their musical talents, and gave them an arena to which to play their "first gigs" and stuff like that. It doesn't change their "roots" in the slightest – no one is denying or disputing that. I'd also advocate that this band should be included, by all means, into a "Bands from Northern Ireland" category or project. But, the band's origin must remain Dundee, Scotland. This happens with alot of bands where members are from diverse, unique locales but because they meet up and form in a city, such as Los Angeles, or Seattle, or London, or Amsterdam, or Paris (etc.)... those cities are stated as the origin of the bands. -- HawkeAnyone 12:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cosidering that most (all?) of the members are from Northern Ireland, maybe both could be included, with an explanation for each location Phalanxia 20:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two members are from Scotland, three are from Northern Ireland. They are based in Scotland and were formed in Scotland, they are a Northern Ireland/Scottish band!!!! They have said that themselves

A person from Northern Ireland is Irish - foxgarrett —Preceding unsigned comment added by Foxgarrett (talk • contribs) 21:51, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Look, I'll reword. I stand by that this makes it ambiguous though.  GARDEN  22:00, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Side Projects & Collaborations

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As I was looking over an addition made by Anon IP# 202.59.22.195, I noticed that the Side-Projects section deals with the side projects of Gary Lightbody, not the band. So, I removed the section from here and have grafted that information into Gary Lightbody's article. IP#'s addition wasn't vandalism, but doesn't quite belong here, persay. Side-projects and collaborations should only be noted/mentioned here if they involve a significant portion (greater than 2?) of or the whole band, or, the material is attributed to them as a group in the credits of that side-project/collaboration.

And yes, to reassure all you Irish people — the band members are from Northern Ireland. Yes yes yes. We've (Stubacca, actually) denoted that in the first line of the article. -- HawkeAnyone 06:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i think i might have just added what you removed, feel free to just delete it if im treadin on toes 172.188.113.194 17:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

-You're not treading on toes. The information you added is already covered on Gary Lightbody's article. The contribution (of a song) can only be attributed to the band if the whole band, in name, does the contributing. It has to do with rights — Gary and Lisa (Hannigan) "own" that song, not Snow Patrol. If Paul Wilson (one of the band members of Snow Patrol) was to leave the band, he'd still retain rights (unless stipulated in contract, but that's another story) over all Snow Patrol songs, including any contributions/collaborations made by the band's name. Make sense?
 I think if we went around to all the band articles on here, we'd find numerous instances of mis-appropriation, especially in the "trivia" sections. For some reason, alot of folks get this wrong, and are way too eager to post every trivial little snip they can find. -- HawkeAnyone 19:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shut Your Eyes video

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I saw the Shut Your Eyes video a couple of days ago. Isn't that a single? 83.119.43.19 13:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It might have been "Open Your Eyes"? Describe the video.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AllySDude (talk • contribs) 11:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]
Hmmm there may be a video for the song but that doesn't mean that it will be a single release. There have been many videos by bands of songs that have not gone on to be released as singles. Plus i cannot find any source information that the single will be released in the near future. So therefore i think it should be removed from the singles chart table until more accurate source material becomes available. Cryo enix 18:18, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Snowpatrolsongsforpolarbearsalbumcover.jpg

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Seriously

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From the article: "Before we hit the scene, rock music had too much balls, which made us and our parents nervous. So what we tried to do really was neuter it, remove that dangerous element of anti-authoritarianism and replace it with the kind of bland, vaugely emotional sound of a dissapointed sigh."-- I truly hope this is a joke and someone can remove it. TurtleWarningCry 23:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't Iain Archer say that on MTV in June? --Altima 12:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Iain Archer

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Hi there, could someone add Iain Archer as a former member please? His biography clearly shows that he was in the band at one point. He was also credited with writing parts of Final Straw and picked up an award for it.

Thanks

Just because he was a contributing member at one point and helped record some songs does not make him an official member of the band. Most bands have people that contribute in some fashion, but are not official members of the band. This is no different. Y2kcrazyjoker4 16:54, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See Rob Coombes weighty contributions to Supergrass's first three albums before being officially introduced as a band member --hubare (talk) 11:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you should have look at Iain Archer's page biography so it can be clarified to you that he was indeed a former member of Snow Patrol. It's a shame I have to make the extra effort here, but here goes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iain_Archer

http://www.iainarcher.co.uk/

In both biographies (Wikipedia and his own site) it clearly states he was a former member, so I don't see where the confusion lies. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.188.26.125 (talk) 04:08:34, August 19, 2007 (UTC)

Ward Park, Bangor, NI

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Can anyone tell me why the reference (which was there before) about their gig in Ward Park, Bangor, has been removed? It was the biggest mini-festival of its kind in the town. hubare (talk) 10:39, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
EDIT: After looking online, it has widely been described as Snow Patrol's biggest gig (up to that point) and poignant because of Gary Lightbody's origins --hubare (talk) 10:51, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hannah Wilson?

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The last portion of the Final Straw section has the following phrase at the end: The song was later issued on the 2007 John Lennon tribute album, Instant Karma: The Amnesty International Campaign to Save Darfur, where their singer fell in love with Hannah Wilson.

I've tried searching for information on this, as it seems to be a bit of a non-sequitor. Can't find anything, but there may be history here I don't fully grasp. Could someone enlighten? Vertelemming (talk) 00:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In searching the page revisions, the reference seems to have been added in the 10:09, 4 May 2008 revision, from 86.0.241.133. That same IP address also seems to be reponsible for adding "Hannah Wilson" to the Former Members list, as "Recorder and Spoons" (since removed). The IP address seems to have been responsible for varying degrees of vandalism/modification to a number of pages. Making the reasonable assumption that this is the same, I'm removing the reference. Vertelemming (talk) 02:48, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Irish" vs "Northern Irish and Scottish"

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Please cease this edit-war before it gets out of hand. Two members of the band are Scottish, thus they are both nationalities. The statement is correct at the minute, please do not change it without consensus here. Garden. 23:40, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why aren't they just described as "British"?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.217.169.252 (talk) 08:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Ireland is not a part of Great Britain so technically that would be wrong. Also taking into account that the lead singer Gary Lightbody considers himself Irish, then to label the band as British would be completely out of order User:Jamie Kelly

Assessment comment

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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Snow Patrol/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

The article contradicts itself on the name of their first EP and on whether it was successful or unsuccessful.(truthordare (talk) 19:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

Last edited at 19:18, 23 May 2009 (UTC). Substituted at 15:49, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

ALL CAPs references

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I believe that they should be changed to normal text. Instead of boldly doing so, I'm checking here first.— Dædαlus Contribs 17:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am going to do it. A user has been adding them for the past few days. I plan to properly format the references using inline citations. The job will take time, but I'm on it. I will get to it sooner or later. Suede67 (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

British or Scottish or N. Irish

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based in Scotland with member from Northern Ireland and Scotland, surely that makes them British not just a northern Irish, and really I'm sure the only people changing it are Northern Irish nationalists who change everything--86.136.245.67 (talk) 15:33, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But the band themselves call them Northern Irish, and not Scottish, that what the reference is for. Consider AC/DC. They're "Australian", even though the people who form it are English/Scottish, only the drummer being Australian born. The band consider themselves Australian, simple! Suede67 (talk) 15:53, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hope we can lay this to rest. The source is a BBC interview, which says: "Despite living in Glasgow for the past five years and having formed in Dundee, McClelland told BBC News Online that the band still and always will class Northern Ireland as home." Suede67 (talk) 01:33, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Lightbody Breaks Jaw

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Apparently. --candle•wicke 05:58, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

8 years ago. --candle•wicke 15:09, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kilt Wearer??

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I'm just wondering what this means: "He later left to pursue a career as a kilt wearer." --Wikiddc (talk) 03:28, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's vandalism. I've removed it. Thanks for the heads-up. -Phoenixrod (talk) 04:32, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gomez Whippin' Piccadilly

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At the very beginning of the song "Warmer Climate" on the Eyes Open album, you can hear the song "Whippin' Piccadilly" by Gomez being played. Listen carefully though. I decided i better post it here because not many people might see it on Talk:Eyes Open. --213.83.125.225 (talk) 10:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Irish

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What the hell is Northern Irish,Northern Irish is not a nationality.The people of Northern Ireland either call themselves Irish or British with either passports.What is the point in referring to them as Northern Irish when there is no such international term?This is just more of the typical oudated sectarian nonsense from a group of people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.107.8.233 (talk) 13:02, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

People in the other 3 countries of Britain can be described as English, Scottish and Welsh - but people aren't merited in desribing themselves as Northern Irish? "Northern Irish" is a term that rose out of people's determination to leave behind the segregated "British/Irish" sociological nature of Northern Ireland. A lot of people now use it to describe themselves instead of British or Irish and it is considered a "Politically Correct" or "Politically Neutral" term. It is almost always officially accepted in the UK as a demonym or nationality. Keys767 (talk) 03:30, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I live in northern ireland and people either call themsleves brittish or irish. There's hardly anyone going around saying "I'm Northern Irish". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.187.148 (talk) 01:04, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am Irish too, and I can confirm that people either call themsleves British or Irish. However, describing the bands nationality and describing where they come from are two different things, at least as far as it relates to people from Northern Ireland. In the same way as Scottish people can be referred to as British, so too can people from Northern Ireland. The difference is that a Northern Ireland Catholic might take offense at being referred to as British, even though his passport says he is British. Similarly, a Northern Ireland protestant might take offense to being called Irish, even though he lives on the Island of Ireland. The term "Northern Irish" therefore nicely points out that someone is geographically from Northern Ireland, without referring to which side of the age-old sectarian divide they fall on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.187.148 (talk) 01:04, 31 January 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.200.27.20 (talk) [reply]

As a Northern Irishman, I can stand by the description of being Northern Irish. It's a term often heard by people who live in the suburbs and areas free from political segregation and the political symbolism that is common in the inner city estates, such as flags, murals, curb painting and security walls. Lightbody grew up in such an area where individual's political persuasions are held with much less importance than they would be in a distinctly Unionist or Nationalist designated area. In the 2011 census 29% of respondents stated Northern Irish as their nationality. Of these, 92% lived in areas regarded as non sectarian, usually but not exclusively above average income areas of relative but not high affluence. Being Northern Irish is quite common for people of Lghtbody's generation who grew up in such areas, other examples being Rory McIlroy and Christine Lampard, both of whom also describe themselves as Northern Irish. The term Northern Irish remains virtually unused in areas that remain strongly divided along sectarian lines. Captainbeecher (talk) 08:48, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline Inaccuracy

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Hi,

I was wondering if the creator of the timeline could possibly update it as I (Michael Morrison) was in the band with Gary and Mark through to December 1996, i.e. just over two years. For some reason I only show up as being in for about half a year. For the record, I can recall the last gig I played with the band being at a private 'toga party' in near Roseangle in Dundee; perhaps the most unusual gig I've ever done!. Very soon afterward however, I had a breakdown and had to leave both the University and the band.

Snopake74 (talk) 23:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Biography Snow Patrol ?

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I have personal and professional history here. Iain Archer was one of the founding members and popularly acknowledged in the press and even on Wiki earlier pages, as a co-writer ......not just a touring member. The truth about the origins of the songs and the band name has not come out yet ( ie been decided by a court ). I know for a fact that the songs and the band name are the product of an obscure band in Australia, ( Lavish, Gold Coast, formed in 1992 ) whose bass player and co-writer is Iain Archers cousin, Brett Layton. Snow Patrol and earlier incarnations Polar Bear have their whole career in dispute and is alleged to be a matter of Fraud, Theft and Copyright Infringement. Also, sound engineer ( Crystal Newell )on the Coldplay/Snow Patrol tour of the States, witnessed Gary Lightbody and Chris Martin working on the song Chasing Cars, in hotel rooms, all across the States. I know for a fact Lavish passed on a uncompleted demo of the song ( it was 2min 10sec long ) and the phrase Chasing Cars was contained in a second chorus. It took Gary Lightbody nearly 10 years and a few different versions of the song and the help of Chris Martin, to finish it off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.231.43.97 (talk) 06:52, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We can't really just take your word for it. You need proof. — foxj 08:31, 5 March 2012 (UTC)Foxj[reply]

As a matter of interest Fox what proof does he need

Olympics Concert 2012

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Is it just entirely coincidental that a band managed by Mr. Mensch (husband of Louise Mensch, MP, and Olympics Committee Member) was selected to represent Ireland at this Olympics event? Does anyone have a shortlist of the other bands considered (if any, !>)?80.42.232.24 (talk) 01:55, 4 May 2012 (UTC)murkydepths80.42.232.24 (talk) 01:55, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Band Member

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Under past band members, Tom Simpson is listed. However, the link leads to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Simpson who died in 1967. I believe that a different Tom Simpson is intended? 59.101.38.143 (talk) 11:33, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the link - doesn't look like he has an article. — foxj 21:23, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Formed in 1993 or 1994?

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In this article currently it states that SP were formed in Dundee in 1993. On Gary's own page it says that he left home in Ireland to go to Dundee university in 1994. It seems like one of those must be wrong. He's unlikely to have formed a band in Dundee before arriving there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:A61:5029:7F00:4861:C53A:5DF1:3F56 (talk) 18:55, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Change Snow Patrol from Scottish Rock Band to Northern Irish Rock Band

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  • What I think should be changed: change 'Scottish Rock Band' from the sub header when you search for Snow Patrol via the search bar on Wikipedia. 'Scottish band' appears as a dropdown when you search for the bands name and before you click to be taken to their Wikipedia page.
  • Why it should be changed: the band are not a Scottish Rock Band, they are from North Ireland and this needs to be amended to say 'North Irish Rock Band'. They were founded in Scotland but very proud of their Northern Irishman.
  • References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://www.go-to-ireland.com/culture/snow-patrol/

185.145.152.162 (talk) 15:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The members were born in Northern Ireland, but the reason why it is Scottish is because all of the members at the time officially formed the band in Dundee, Scotland in 1994. There are other sources out there that refer to the band as both "Northern Irish" and "Scottish" at the same time, though to be honest, I do not feel like anything really needs to change yet until a consensus can be reached regarding the band's nationality in the lead section. HorrorLover555 (talk) 15:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The band were founded in Scotland, as they met at university and 1 past member was Scottish. However the 3 remaining band members are from Northern Ireland and this article [1]from Belfast Live reiterates this point with it's mention "the Co Down superstars", which is a region of Northern Ireland.
The lead paragraph can remain with saying "Snow Patrol are a rock band formed in 1994 in Dundee, Scotland". However, the issue is when you're on the Wikipedia homepage and search 'Snow Patrol' in the search bar, the subheading reads "Scottish rock band", which they are not and would like to be changed. Joheroncloser (talk) 12:11, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is, as it is mentioned in MOS:NATIONALITY, the guideline states that "the opening paragraph should usually provide context for that which made the person notable. In most modern-day cases, this will be the country, region, or territory where the person is currently a national or permanent resident; or, if the person is notable mainly for past events, where the person was such when they became notable". In this case, we will use AC/DC as an example: the members are Scottish, but they formed in Australia, which makes them an Australian band. The guideline mentions that the opening paragraph should provide context where the band or person was when they became notable. Snow Patrol formed in Scotland, so it makes a lot of sense that the band should be referred to as 'Scottish'. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Or, how about we don't attach a nationality to something that is a thing and not a person? Or just have as British if need be as that covers all aspects of it. Never understood how a band can have a nationality. Canterbury Tail talk 17:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We'd need to associate the band with Northern Ireland as much as we can. None of the band members are Scottish and very proud Northern Irishman, with the new album being an ode to their roots in Northern Ireland.
Could we rephrase the opening paragraph to say "Snow Patrol are a rock band from Northern Ireland. The band were originally formed in 1994 at University of Dundee in Dundee, Scotland". Would this trigger the search bar subheading to then read 'Northern Irish Rock Band'? 185.145.152.162 (talk) 13:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just because the members are Northern Irish does not make the band so. The band formed in Scotland, per both origin in the infobox and the sourced history. If anything, I can agree with Canterbury Tail, and state the band as British. HorrorLover555 (talk) 14:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have gone ahead and looked for some independent sources in regards to the band's nationality, and have found multiple sources on it.
These are the sources I present, which a majority of them refer to the band as "Northern Irish-Scottish". If that is the case, why not compromise and simply refer to the band as just "Northern Irish-Scottish"? Most of the other related articles refer to them as such. If not that, then maybe refer to the band as "British" per Canterbury Tail's reason. HorrorLover555 (talk) 20:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Northern Irish-Scottish would be a great compromise. Can we amend in the subheading when you search for Snow Patrol too? 185.145.152.162 (talk) 09:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are you referring to the short description? That can be done. HorrorLover555 (talk) 15:36, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes there but also if you go to the search bar on Wikipedia (on the top of the website) and type in 'Snow Patrol' it'll bring a few options and the top shall be 'Snow Patrol' with 'Scottish rock band' underneath it. Will this change automatically once the short description changes? 185.145.152.162 (talk) 15:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done HorrorLover555 (talk) 18:55, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you - are we able to add it to the first sentence of the first paragraph too? To something like "Snow Patrol are a northern irish-scottish rock band formed in 1994 in Dundee, Scotland." 84.64.27.17 (talk) 08:39, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done for now: consensus would be needed before implementing a potentially controversial change like this. Kline • talk • contribs 16:13, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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