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A fact from Slim Pickins appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 September 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in her song "Slim Pickins", Sabrina Carpenter supposedly settles for someone who does not know the difference between "their", "there", and "they are"?

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The result was: promoted by Kimikel talk 22:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that due to a lack of good men, Sabrina Carpenter settles for someone who does not know the difference between "their", "there", and "they are" in her song "Slim Pickins"?

Source: Capital

ALT1: ... that according to her "Slim Pickins" lyrics, Sabrina Carpenter intends to keep "moanin' and bitchin'" in the kitchen? Source: Capital
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Windy Zhan

Created by MaranoFan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 69 past nominations.

N Ø 17:56, 6 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hey there:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 18:52, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How does the source verify either of the hooks? The "lack of good men" part checks out, but the "their"/"there" etc. part is just referencing the lyrics. This is drawing a conclusion that the article doesn't state. Songs are often works of fiction, so I'm not comfortable with making these statements without a proper source. What's in the hook comes off as somewhere between synthesis and original research. I honestly have no idea what ALT1 means and its certainly not referenced in the article. The article only has the line "moanin' and bitchin'" and doesn't infer that Carpenter serves it in the kitchen: the lyrics do.
I dislike the links. It's unclear to most readers except a few pop-culture stans that "a lack of good men" and "moanin' and bitchin'" will link to a Carpenter song. (MOS:EASTEREGG)
Furthermore, I have doubts about the reliability of Capital. More than anything, it seems like a radio station, not a publication. The article comes off as somewhat sensationalist and low-quality. I can't find much on the author's credibility. Can you make a case for this source?
The article looks fine otherwise. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 18:53, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PerfectSoundWhatever I have seen a lot of SZA songs, like this one for example, run with the article linked to the lyrics' text. The author of the Capital article did music journalism for MTV UK ([1], [2], [3], [4]) which is generally considered a high quality source. In any case, the hooks just pertain to lyrics which can be heard in videos shared in more reliable sources like NME and The Line of Best Fit. Here's
ALT2: ... that Sabrina Carpenter randomly decided to sing the song "Slim Pickins" at the Grammy Museum several weeks before its release?--N Ø 19:56, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changed hooks and ALT2 need a new review.--N Ø 21:57, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, the wording/linking is much less ambiguous. The "in her song" of ALT0 fixes the issues I had with original research. Will check this. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 23:41, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]