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On 18 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Skip tracing. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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I don't understand what this sentence of the article means: "Most often recognized outside of the industry by phone calls placed to individuals that fit the profile of a person being searched for (e.g. same first inital and last name, address or city and state)"

I'd like to change it (that is, by adding a verb so it's not longer a fragment) but I don't know what to change it to. Should I delete it? Vanillacreem 14:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

skiptrace

I believe the auther was try to explaine the most common interaction between skippers and the public albiet some what inaccuratly. We contact many individuals daily in order to aquire information about the targets sometimes its as simple as a same name but more often it is some one who knew the subject. It manifests as a random phone call asking about the subject sometimes (legally ) the caller will ID themselfs and there legal purpose. At other times the skiptracer will not id and will have a story designed to extract information without asking directly or being memorable. The idea is to be forgotten and entirly plausible as a mistake. however such tactics are now mostly a thing of the past. u could delete it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.137.202.138 (talk) 04:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Skiptrace

deleted it. over simplification. plus actions are not commenly percieved by most

I AM A SKIP TRACER.

Most people who hire me to locate debtors or people that are dodging process service are business owners that don't have their own collections department. Some are parents of children that are looking for non-paying child support parents. Which ever the case may be, there is a proven method of operation for a skip tracer. First of all, what information that a skip tracer has access to is provided by an information provider on a subscription basis and the requirements for having access to those databases include a license such as a private investigators license, law enforcement, or finance company.

Thanks, eSkipracer Valerie Good —Preceding unsigned comment added by ESkiptracer (talk • contribs) 18:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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"A common tactic involves calling or visiting former neighbors, employers or other known contacts to ask about the subject, sometimes under false or misleading pretenses. In most jurisdictions this deception, known as pretexting, is legal[citation needed]" I'm not a pi or law enforcement agent, but I've got an extensive background in consumer protection. The sentence that I've copied and pasted at the beginning of this paragraph, in many circumstances, is not true. It is not legal to engage in this sort of pretexting in most jurisdictions when the *skip* is a debtor and the pursuer is a debt collector. Discussing debt with an unauthorized third party such as a neighbor or an employer is a violation of consumer protection statutes. I have personal experience with the enforcement and subseqent prosecution of perpetrators who violate this statute so I know that of which I speak! I don't have a link, off hand, to supply for this. But, I can refer the editor to the Federal Trade Commission's website, the URL being (I believe...) www.ftc.gov. I refer the editor to the pages titled "Consumer Protection" and "ID Theft and Fishing Schemes." Also, the Better Business Bureau posts, online - again, I don't have a URL - that outlines what constitutes abusive debt collection practice and one of those items is the discussing of an alleged debt with someone other than the alleged debtor. Often, violation of this statute means that the pursuer is ordered by a court to forgo collection! --97.115.140.198 (talk) 16:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see where in any of that you read that the tracer is discussing the debt with the called parties. They may be calling pretending to be looking for him to tell him about a high school reunion, etc. without ever mentioning that a debt is owed. Collectors call friends and relatives of debtors all the time even without pretexting just to ask if they have current information while at the same time saying they cannot discuss why exactly they need it.

76.170.114.160 (talk) 05:43, 14 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

colloquial?

Is it really a colloquial term? I thought it was an official job title? -- œ ^™ 03:16, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

devoid of sources

This article is almost devoid of sources. I am working to develop it in higher quality. Anyone should care to help if they want to see this article possibly become a FA or even an GA at some point! DrPhen (talk) 14:02, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

December 5th Edits

I really don't think we need to delete the entire section on predictive skip tracing. Maybe we can just work on rewording it and removing the promotional tone. A Very Purple Ostrich (talk) 17:20, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 October 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 16:51, 3 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Skiptrace → Skip tracing – This is the term used by all the references in this article 162 etc. (talk) 19:57, 17 October 2022 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – Ammarpad (talk) 06:53, 18 October 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 18:12, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@162 etc.: Discuss, as term "skiptrace" is still used in some of the references: see [1]. Also, skiptrace seems to be the more common search term according to google trends. Happily888 (talk) 01:40, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The reference you linked here actually makes no reference to "skiptrace". There are 13 instances of "skip trace" and 31 instances of "skip tracing" in this article, which is titled "What is Skip Tracing and How You Can Use It". I also note that your Google Trends search used the wrong keywords; results show that "skip tracing" and "skiptrace" are essentially tied.[2] 162 etc. (talk) 17:00, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 20:01, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Skip tracer. I think it's better to have this article titled as the person doing the job rather than the job itself, just like private investigator rather than private investigating. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:00, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Inconsistent between "skiptrace" (one word) and "skip trace" (two words)

This article spells it both ways. It might benefit the article to spell it consistently. 2601:40B:8600:2340:DD84:E38C:63A7:7FD8 (talk) 20:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]