Talk:Sixty-Four Counties Youth Movement
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[edit]Sebi Buduroi '99,
please stop re-adding misleading and fringe material to the article. In Romania, per law, owning any material that are as well eligible for any pyrotechnic or other purpose may be convicted. The issue of the charges, events are discussed in the relevant section.(KIENGIR (talk) 22:18, 15 December 2019 (UTC))
- They were convicted of terrorism in Romania, so how is this "misleading" and "fringe"? Stop reverting material that is backed by sources, this is against Wikipedia's rules. Thank you. --Sebi Buduroi '99 (talk) 22:31, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, they were not convicted of "terrorism", WP has it's sourcing policies, but your assertion fails WP:NPOV, anyway a huge WP:OR, etc. Anyway, owning fireworks are definetly not terrorism, neither you may extend your fallacious assertions to a movement, that is as well false.(KIENGIR (talk) 21:39, 30 December 2019 (UTC))
- The initial conviction was a mild one - 10/11 months in prison for illegal possession of fireworks. They were then convicted 5 years each for terrorist attempt. Since one of them was the leader of the movement, it is not a fallacy to extend their terrorist attempt to the whole organization. Stop reverting my additions because it is obvious you have no knowledge whatsoever on the matter. This is my last warning.--Sebi Buduroi '99 (talk) 05:14, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- No, none of them was the leader of the organization, but regardless your approach is totally fallacious, a failed original research. Excuse me, contrary to your statement, I have a knowledge on the matter. You have not just to respect our policies, but struggle on valid content.(KIENGIR (talk) 07:19, 31 December 2019 (UTC))
- Zoltán Szőcs is the leader of the movement in Romania. Again, it is clear you have no knowledge on the matter but you keep reverting information backed up by sources. Therefore, I will have to report your actions to the admins.--Sebi Buduroi '99 (talk) 18:51, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, "leader of the movement of Romania" does not equal with "leader of the movement", and again, unfortunately for you I have the knowledge, and you are contradicting yourself on and on. The additons you push are not backed by the sources anyway, I have to express again, what you fail is WP:OR at the first place, but I don't wish to repeat myself more. Moreover, it is funny that you reported me "for my actions", I did not harm any rule, contrary to you who chose a clear edit-warring, I asked you to avoid...(KIENGIR (talk) 01:53, 1 January 2020 (UTC))
- Zoltán Szőcs is the leader of the movement in Romania. Again, it is clear you have no knowledge on the matter but you keep reverting information backed up by sources. Therefore, I will have to report your actions to the admins.--Sebi Buduroi '99 (talk) 18:51, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- No, none of them was the leader of the organization, but regardless your approach is totally fallacious, a failed original research. Excuse me, contrary to your statement, I have a knowledge on the matter. You have not just to respect our policies, but struggle on valid content.(KIENGIR (talk) 07:19, 31 December 2019 (UTC))
- The initial conviction was a mild one - 10/11 months in prison for illegal possession of fireworks. They were then convicted 5 years each for terrorist attempt. Since one of them was the leader of the movement, it is not a fallacy to extend their terrorist attempt to the whole organization. Stop reverting my additions because it is obvious you have no knowledge whatsoever on the matter. This is my last warning.--Sebi Buduroi '99 (talk) 05:14, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, they were not convicted of "terrorism", WP has it's sourcing policies, but your assertion fails WP:NPOV, anyway a huge WP:OR, etc. Anyway, owning fireworks are definetly not terrorism, neither you may extend your fallacious assertions to a movement, that is as well false.(KIENGIR (talk) 21:39, 30 December 2019 (UTC))
Please make sure you adhere to WP:ONUS while the matter is being discussed, Sebi Buduroi. Also, both of you should refrain from edit summaries that are so terse the information they convey approaches zero: KIENGIR, Sebi Buduroi — that is, in itself, a problem. Thank you both in advance for your close attention. El_C 20:58, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
- @El C:, thank you, I will - I made the second time as well short ref in the edit log, did so because as well other users reverted the clear fringe OR addition -, however I instantly entered on the talk page with explanation, and later clearly expressed the problem in logs as well. However in the future as you asked, repeated short log won't happen.(KIENGIR (talk) 02:01, 1 January 2020 (UTC))