Talk:Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (song)

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War Inside My Head

I disagree that this song is about Desert Storm. I believe it is about Vietnam. The lyrics say a "years and years of bloodshed and warfare": Desert Storm only lasted from Aug. '90 to Feb '91, Vietnam lasted around 16 years. Also, "napalm showers," were not a part of Desert Storm, but once again, Vietnam. Finally, I do not believe the six months of Desert Storm caused "permanent psychotic hell" as the song speaks, and most people know of stories of Vietnam veterans who suffer from mental torment from the war. Steviedpeele 18:38, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with that, and I believe most DT fans do too. The change from Vietnam to Desert Storm was made by an IP user, so unless that user steps up, identifies himself and explains his opinion, I believe we should change it back to Vietnam. Hetcenus 19:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have to concur. PTSD was really brought to light with the Vietnam generation anyway. That is likely to what the song is refering. Feel free to change it. InnocuousFox 21:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As much fun as this discussion is, you do know that Wikipedia requires sources, right? 143.92.1.32 (talk) 03:34, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Autism or Aspergers?

I believe that Degree 5 actually refers to Aspergers and not Autism. The line "he learned to walk and talk on time" shows there was no delay in speech development. This is one of the key differences between the two as stated on the Asperger's page:

"Asperger syndrome is not differentiated from other autistic spectrum disorders by a minority of clinicians and instead they refer to it as high functioning autism (HFA) [1] in that early development is normal and there is no language delay and thus the symptoms differ only in degree from classic autism."

I move that we either change the "diagnosis" on the page to reflect this or add a reference to Asperger's parenthetically.

InnocuousFox 03:42, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Schizoid/Schizotypal Personality Disorder

I believe that Degree 5 actually refers one of the above. At a discussion of this song at http://faq.dtnorway.com/question/1074 , Ravi comments: "autistic children do not "learn to talk on time", though children with Rett's syndrome or Heller's syndrome may do so up to a certain age. Asperger's syndrome is a more likely guess, but that still doesn't explain "Monday morning lunatic", "casual delusions", "temporary catatonic" or "sad and fearful most of the time" (though people with Asperger's are at risk for depression)." These symptoms are far more in common with Schizotypal sufferers (and in fact closer to Schizoid & Avoidant than Autistic.

I agree with the above that this is unlikely to refer to autism, and feel a personality disorder is the most likely reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.234.252.66 (talk) 10:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Goodnight Kiss

From hearing the laughter and screams in this section, it sounds more like the person it's about is having a recurring nightmare. That's sort of the "vibe" I get whenever that section comes on.
_~~Neo 2.3 Hylan 21:09, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it's a litte late for this addendum, but... I don't know if only I have the impression 'Goodnight Kiss' is divided in two parts. The first one, that ends with "...taken away from it all" (the first time), and the second starting at "It's been 5 years to the day...".
To me it appears this movement tells the story of a mother and a child that were separated for some reason. Maybe the mother tried to kill the baby in the hospital, which is not uncommon in post-partum depression situations.
I don't think the baby died. The first part is about somebody talking to the child (and this wouldn't make any sense if the kid was dead), who misses the mother ("So innocent as you lie down", "Are you lonely without Mommy's love?").
The second is about the mother, that obviously regrets something she did and caused the separation ("I can't help acting this way, and those bastard doctors are gonna pay"), also suggesting that possibly the child was taken away from her in the hospital. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.171.255.75 (talk) 19:41, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Song Analysis

I have slightly modified the "Song Analysis" section; rather than just describing each Degree, to make it like Octavarium and A Change of Seasons, describing each Section (I through VIIIb), as Section I "Overture" requires some information as well. Anyone who thinks otherwise, let me know.
_~~N a N 13:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Losing Time

There is nothing in the song specifically pinpointing this one as DID. There is no mention of alters or other persons/personalities. What's described in the song seems to better fit one of the other Dissociative disorders, perhaps Depersonalization, or more likely, a fugue state, given the mention of wandering. 08:16, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't know who wrote this article but who ever wrote it was talking out of their ass — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.49.43.58 (talk) 14:04, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Test that Stumped Them All

Shouldn't random urine testing be part of "Hoping to find in me The answers to the test that stumped them all", and not have any relationship to drugs? Jeff 17:05, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

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