Talk:Sinim
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[edit]- "...which resembles the Latinization for the Chinise Qin, after the Qin dynasty, founded only in 221 BC by Qin Shi Huang-Di)."
But it should be noted that the state of Quin (or Qin) existed in Isaiah's day.
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Wang
[edit]- "You may wonder what the word 'Sinim' means. Where is this land of Sinim mentioned by Isaiah before his service was terminated in 680 BC?. . ." In The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Houghton Mifflin 1973, p.1209. "'Sino' indicates Chinese; for example, Sinophile. [French, from Late Latin Sinae, the Chinese, from Greek Sinai, from Arabic Sin; China from Chinese (Mandarin) Ch'in [Qin], Dynastic name of the country.'" We can see how "Sinim" would be China. ". . . All Chinese roots meet in the Quin dynasty. . . . the Hebrew alphabet does not have the equivalent of 'ch' in English and 'Q' in Chinese. Thus Qin has been phonetically translated as 'Sinim.'
- "'In Isaiah's day, the state of Quin was only one of hundreds of states under Zhou (770-256 BC). It was located in the present Gansu ... Province through which trade with the West was conducted. How is it that Isaiah chose Qin to indicate the Middle Kingdom [the literal meaning of China]? What was so special about Qin?
- "'Rang Kung was appointed as the first Duke of Qin (770 BC), then a small, aristocratic house. Under his administration, the state of Qin emerged as one of the 14 major states under the Zhou dynasty. It was 500 years after Isaiah that Qin Shi Hangdi defeated all the other competitive states and established the Qin dynasty. From then on, Qin represented the Middle Kingdom (China).
..." Except as noted, quotations are from China in Bible Prophecy by Samuel Wang and Ethel R. Nelson, © 1989 by Samuel Wang, Read Books, HCR 65 Box 580, Dunlap, TN 37327. Used by permission. 1.
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Sources for future article expansion
[edit]- Delitzsch, Franz; et al. (1890), Biblical Commentary on the Prophesies of Isaiah, Vol. II, Clark's Foreign Theological Library, N.S. Vol. XLIV, Edinburgh: translated by J.S. Banks & James Kennedy for T. & T. Clark, p. 242 ff..
from Delitzsch's 4th edition. — LlywelynII 06:45, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Sini (Genesis)
[edit]Do any sources endorse or dismiss a connection with the Sini (descendants of Canaan) mentioned in Genesis 10:17? The lack of any mention in the current WP article makes me think they're not connected. 70.172.194.25 (talk) 05:14, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't know Hebrew, but Young's Concordance makes them two separate words. John Foxe (talk) 03:01, 2 June 2022 (UTC)