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A Note on Article Title

The problem with just Simon Fraser (general) was that there are two Generals named Simon Fraser. General Simon Fraser of Balnian, and General Simon Fraser of Lovat. They are so named because there are multiple Simon Frasers of Lovat, and more than one Generals Simon Fraser, thus this seems to be a nice, clear and 2nd-nature naming scheme. File:Icons-flag-scotland.png Canæn File:Icons-flag-scotland.png 00:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of Sources

The complete lack of references in this article bothers me more than the chatty tone of some of the sentences or the omissions of some details. Can anybody improve this? Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 23:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Master of Lovat section

Re the following sentences:

General Hawley reportedly found Charles lying on the field, and ordered a young James Wolfe to shoot him. Wolfe refusing, Hawley found another common soldier to do his dirty work.

I found the sentences unclear and, searching through the articles on Wolfe and Hawley, instead of clarification, it appears to be contradicted. Who is 'Charles' in this case? Is it meant to be the Prince? These two sentences appear out of place in this article. They are unclear and unreferenced? Should they be deleated? Cinderella157 (talk) 01:17, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]