Talk:Silver fulminate

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I simplified the Preparation section avoiding too detailed instructions os the explosive preparation. As already duscussed in other articles on explosives, this is not a terrorist handbook (there are plenty of those on the net already)...The preparation is commented, without being a cookbook on its synthesis. JEFCG 17:35, 11 September 2006 (UTC)Snappers mini torpedos great fun.They use Silver fumanite as expolsive gravel impregnated with same!Decide/Dated sn.Jul 5th 2009 2009 21stcent.Dr. Edson Andre' Johnson D.D.ULC>SWORDINHAND (talk) 18:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cyanate or fulminate hexamer?

I *think* the ball-and-stick shows a silver cyanate hexamer, rather than a silver fulminate one. Can someone who knows check this? Riventree (talk) 16:48, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I created the image, based on D. Britton, Acta Cryst. (1991) C47, 2646-2647. The title of the article is "A redetermination of the trigonal silver fulminate structure". If you compare the articles fulminate and cyanate, you'll see fulminate is [CNO]⁻ (oxygen is bonded to nitrogen) whereas cyanate is [OCN]⁻ (oxygen is bonded to carbon). Different connectivities. --Ben (talk) 20:05, 12 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, looking at the diagram on the upper right, it shows Ag-O-N=C (triple N=C) Assuming Oxygen is red, nitrogen is blue, and carbon is black, then the grey is silver. The ball-and-stick shows the Ag and the O on opposite sides of the "sticks": that would make something that was AgCNO, rather than AgONC. Right?

Riventree (talk) 20:08, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All the crystal structures that are reported in the literature have Ag bonded to C, so I think the black-and-white structural formula needs updating. --Ben (talk) 20:21, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doh. There I was, assuming the simpler diagram was right. I searched a couple more sources, and they agree with you and the ball-and-stick. I uploaded a fixed version of the diagram.

Case closed. Riventree (talk) 13:06, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More information needed

Alright, what happened to the history of this compound? Particularly it's use with percussion caps. Is this article being censored? Completely ridiculous. 172.115.25.33 (talk) 07:13, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]