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Fair use rationale for Image:Red Alert Sigg water bottle design.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No elements can leak?

"As a result of this, no elements can leak into the transported liquid" Well, how do we know no elements leach out of the liner? The liner is proprietary, so it's difficult or impossible to answer this question. ErikHaugen (talk) 22:53, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed section "Advantages and Disadvantages"

I took out the "This section is written like an advertisement" warning and replaced:

Aluminum bottles are resistant to shocks and deformations, are lightweight, and protect the contents from light. The interior proprietary coating is flexible and is unlikely to break or crack during deformations. Sigg bottles have been determined by Backpacker magazine to be the world's toughest water bottle.[4] The impermeable proprietary coating and secure closure mechanism allow for carbonated beverages to be transported in a secure and fresh fashion.[5]

with this...

Aluminum bottles are resistant to shocks and deformations, are lightweight, and protect the contents from light. The interior coating is flexible and is unlikely to break or crack during deformations. Sigg bottles have been determined by Backpacker magazine to be the "world's toughest water bottle."[1] The bottle with its internal liner and secure cap allow for carbonated beverages to be transported secure and freshly.[2]

It seems to me to now have a neutral tone to it. Let me know if you disagree.Air.light (talk) 07:18, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SIGG fuel bottles

I recently added a bit about SIGG manufacturing aluminum bottles for fuel storage and transport, mostly from memory. Further research on the Web since then indicates that much of the "history" is lore, and it's hard to pin down the origins. While it is true that MSR (Mountain Safety Research) currently sells fuel bottles that are compatible with SIGG caps, according to a discussion forum thread, they may no longer be buying bottles from SIGG. As the story goes, when MSR first came out with their ultralight mountaineering stoves, they were supplied with SIGG aluminum bottles. The stove design requires the bottle to be pressurized before lighting, and the SIGG bottles were of relatively thin aluminum, never intended for pressure service. As a result, SIGG bottles would acquire rounded bottoms and showed other signs of extreme stress. To correct the problem, MSR allegedly had bottles made for them with thicker walls, and instead of a threaded insert in the bottle neck, the threads were machined directly into the bottle material to prevent leaks and increase strength. I'm not too sure about the threaded inserts (I've seen them on cheap, knock-off beverage bottles from China), but I can verify that an old, late-1970s era SIGG bottle in my possession does not have an insert in the neck, so SIGG definitely had and still has the technical capability of manufacturing bottles in this fashion. I've also examined current SIGG beverage bottles at a local store, and the threads appear to be machined into the neck, too. So, I haven't been able to find any evidence of the use of threaded inserts by SIGG, either in their own branded products or products made for OEMs. Based on what I think I now know, people were using SIGG aluminum bottles for fuel storage before there were stoves such as those from MSR; MSR designers created their first stoves around the existing SIGG fuel bottles, thus acquiring the thread specifications for their bottle caps and pumps; the thread specifications were carried over into subsequent generations of MSR stoves and their own bottles due to concerns over legacy compatibility of parts. Further research may eventually uncover some verifiable references on the history of SIGG fuel bottles and their relationship to Primus, Optimus, MSR, etc.—Quicksilver^{T @} 22:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Should be renamed according to MOS: Sigg

n/t — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.10.25.96 (talk) 21:37, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I should start insulting you people, that tends to focus your attention. --91.10.10.219 (talk) 22:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 May 2015

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move per request.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:11, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SIGG → Sigg – Capital letters are not necessary because it is not an abbreviation but the name of the founder, Ferdinand Sigg. Heamo Wacko (talk) 20:30, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom MOS:CAPS/MOS:TM -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 03:40, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Just as stated in MOS:TMRULES. --David Edgar (talk) 21:51, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose agreed not an abbreviation and the founder's name was Sigg. However the company presents itself as SIGG and trademarks its products as such, company history, official website. --KTo288 (talk) 10:36, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Striking out oppose, can't argue against MOS:TM.--KTo288 (talk) 10:44, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.