Talk:Siege of Tsingtao

Page misnamed

In the concession era the name of the city was : Tsingtau

So this page should be renamed : Siege of Tsingtau

However, it should always accept and direct using the more modern Siege of Tsingtao for backward compatibility.

I've removed the line below from the body of the article, as discussion should remain here on the Talk page. Nick Number (talk) 21:14, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

In the concession era the name of the city was : Tsingtau. So this page should be renamed : Siege of Tsingtau.

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Austria-Hungary fought? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.176.100.142 (talk) 12:01, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Considering the Japanese had 7 times the number of casualties the germans had, the section "Attack" was utter rubbish by simply stating how easily the japanese drove the german defenders out of the city. I took it out, needs to be rewritten by an unbiased expert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.66.36.189 (talk) 10:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

China?

The chinese did not delare war on Germany until 1917, why are they listed in the infobox? There were chinese who fought on both sides in this battle, but they fought within units of other countries and not under Chinese national units.XavierGreen (talk) 23:01, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

There is no reason to state China as a supporter of German side for this battle. Thus, I have removed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.74.250.7 (talk) 16:52, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Support and combatant are different things. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 16:14, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Could you list the citation to support "China as a supporter of the Axis side"?

Germans and British

I had an elderly relative who took part in the siege of Tsingtao. He told me that as the Japanese were unable to tell the difference between the European British and Germans all allied troops were issued with a special raincoat.

Does anybody else have any information about this?AT Kunene (talk) 18:36, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Name mixed-up

"Jaguar sank the Japanese cruiser Takashio". May that be a mistake? S90 sank Takachiho, but there had not been 2 cruisers with those names in the Imperial Japanese Navy. --JuergenKlueser (talk) 16:13, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Allied casualties...

According to the template: 727 killed. According to the article (penultimate paragraph): 248 (236 Japanese and 12 British). Unless 248 refers only to land forces and 727 to land and naval personnel... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.139.118.211 (talk) 11:31, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Picture that was in the infobox

Picture that was in the infobox (No. 4).	Another picture in the same series (No. 3).

The above-left picture was in the infobox until 28 February 2017, when an editor removed it, saying:

This photo is about Sebrian War in This picture is about Sebrian War in 1904.

The description on Commons says:

A Japanese lithograph, probably showing the Japanese fighting German troops during the conquest of the German colony Tsingtao (today Qingdao) in China between 13 September and 7 November 1914.

Original caption: "The Japanese army defeated the German-Austrian Army near Usri [i.e. Ussuri], Siberia."

Note: The prints of this series relate to the Siberian Intervention from 1918-1922. However, at that time there were no German or Austro-Hungarian troops anywhere in Asia. The Austro-Hungarian troops may refer to the sailors provided by the Austro-Hungarian armoured cruiser SMS Kaiserin Elisabeth for the defence of Tsingtao in 1914.

The https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Tsingtao_battle_lithograph_1914.jpg talk page on Commons] has the following:

Tsingtao ?

The description of "German-Austria Army" is inadequate. But the Japanese government sent its armed forces to Siberia nominally for the purpose of "saving Russia and subduing Germany". The name of this postcard series is 救露討獨遠征軍画報 (Pictorial of the expeditionary force to save Russia and subdue Germany ). This picture is the same as No. 4 and it also depicts Battle of Usri (Battle at Usri area) like No. 3 of the same series = File:The Illustration of the Siberian War, No. 3, The battle of Usri, Siberia (LOC ppmsca.08215).jpg. We can see same terrain and same planes in both pictures. Although the painter and the publisher confused with "German-Austria Army", this picture doesn't depict the Battle of Tsingtao. Takabeg (talk) 13:03, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

No 3 in the series is the picture above-right. In my opinion, the terrain as depicted is similar, but not necessarily of the same place.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:36, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Number of Aircraft

The infobox says Allied Power...Strength...: 2 aircraft. Is it known, if there were land based aircraft? The seaplane carrier Wakamiya had a load of 4 seaplanes of type MF.11. So what is the reason for 2? --JuergenKlueser (talk) 07:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Numbers conflict

In the Aftermath section, it says 4700 German prisoners. In the infobox, the number captured is far lower.  ? Boscaswell talk 06:03, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

French involvement?

There is a passing reference in the infobox to French participation. There is no attribution to reliable sources to affirm this, and no mention whatsoever of the French in the article. In the continued absence of source-based evidence, it should be removed from the infobox. Keith H99 (talk) 22:09, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

This has been reverted. An edit was done in April with no explanation. Eastfarthingan (talk) 08:32, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

There’s a note in the French cruiser Dupleix’s article on this site about the ship being part of the Tsingtao blockade until September 9th. It cites the book “Naval Operations to the Battle of the Falklands. History of the Great War”

Whoever added the note of the French involvement did not seem to explain this connection in the edit. 71.232.218.89 (talk) 19:43, 27 December 2023 (UTC)