Talk:Siege of Belaya

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POV and dubious claims

First, the claim about Władysław being injured is new to me; I've read his biography, written his GA here, and I don't recall it. I'd like to see more reliable sources confirm this. Second, the tone of this article seems somewhat biased towards Russian version of the events; this article should be NPOVed with other sources. As the author of the article about the Smolensk War (again, I read at least one work dedicated to it) I don't recall that the Polish sources portray this battle as significant to the extent this single defeat led to the wars' end; through it was not without influence - but I think this article overstates the impact of this battle. Of course, Polish sources are as likely to be biased as Russian, so the truth is as usual somewhere in between, but for now I think this article is too biased toward the Russian POV. PS. The battle is discussed by Nagielski, p. 47–50, but I won't be able to look at his work till December. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Vladimir Volkov is Doctor of History Science. In my eyes he is a reliable source. Probably, it was not a serious injury and there is no reason to call that information dubious. If you can add more information by using Polish sources I would welcome it. --Shervinsky (talk) 14:33, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

September 2024

@Historyk.ok please stop changing the result in the infobox until you've dicussed the issue here with reliable sources and gained consensus from other editors to do so. This is how things work on Wikipedia. I've left a standard notice about edit-warring on your user talk page, please read it and review the linked guidelines there. Thanks, R Prazeres (talk) 16:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I got this result from Polish Wikipedia Historyk.ok (talk) 16:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not changing anything, you are. Nothing in the article describes a Polish-Lithuanian victory. The Polish Wikipedia is irrelevant as Wikipedia is not a reliable source: any change or addition in content needs to be supported by citations to reliable sources. And since the infobox is only a summary of the article, this would have to be explained in the article itself first. (My comment applies to your edits even if you were thinking of another article; reliable sources is a universal requirement.) Thanks, R Prazeres (talk) 16:09, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote in the discussion about what the proof should look like for you Historyk.ok (talk) 16:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]