Talk:Sidearm (baseball)

Who wrote this stuff?

As to these two statements: The sidearm motion is a more natural motion of the arm and leads to a reduced risk of elbow and shoulder injuries that are common in pitchers.[citation needed] Sidearm pitching is becoming more popular in baseball, especially for relief pitchers.[citation needed]

I have always heard the opposite, and that sidearm pitching leads to injuries. Also, sidearm pitching is not "becoming more popular in baseball," as there are still only a handful of pros who pitch sidearm. Who said this stuff? By the way, here is a college coach who agrees with me: http://www.stevenellis.com/steven_ellis_the_complete/pitching_mechanics_sidearm/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.109.7.33 (talk) 02:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Now I've written this stuff!

I have corrected, or at least improved, the discussion about sidearm, including the discussion about injuries. It is not possible just to say that sidearm is healthful or injurious to the arm. So much depends on where the arm is when the stride foot lands, not to mention the individuals' physiology. Truthfully, I think that it must be said that pitching itself predisposes pitchers to shoulder and elbow problems! But that said, proper technique, not matter the arm slot, is the pitcher's best hope for a healthy career. Joelthesecond (talk) 12:07, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crossfire

This article needs a segment on crossfire pitching technique or crossfire delivery which is unique to sidearm delivery. ^[1]^[2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.253.138.227 (talk) 14:19, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

Speed

Any info on the highest recorded speed of a sidearm pitch in MLB and Japan? Setenzatsu (talk) 16:08, 28 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 November 2019

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The result of the move request was: move all I see general consensus for all three of the proposed moves. (closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 (talk) 04:30, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

– A WP:NOPRIMARY situation. Side arm should be redirected to the disambiguation page at Sidearm. Note: Will require repair of all hardcoded links for both pages. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 22:05, 12 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, sidearm, one word, is the pitch. Side arm, two words, is the weapon. Both are primary for their spelling. Randy Kryn (talk) 05:54, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Randy Kryn: That is not the case. See the definition here and here. Sidearm (the weapon) is also a single word._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:56, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, after further review I see you are correct, and that these should have been at the proposed titles. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:11, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Most of my google results on the first page for "sidearm" are for the weapon. NOPRIMARY is a good solution. --Gonnym (talk) 11:26, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support first. Move Side arm to Sidearm. Oppose third. The weapon is overwhelmingly known by the single-word term and is very easily the primary topic for that term. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:34, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Sidearm to Sidearm (baseball). Oppose Side arm to Sidearm (weapon). Neutral on whether Side arm or Sidearm (disambiguation) gets moved to Sidearm. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:14, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support the first proposal. Oppose any move for side arm at moment. Neither article is viewed that highly, so I don't agree with the declaration that there's a primary topic here. A side arm vs. sidearm debate feels like something for a separate RM, Nohomersryan (talk) 22:32, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Nohomersryan: There is no debate, as Randy Kryn has retracted his above statement. "Side arm" is not a separate term. Both are called "Sidearm" in reliable sources._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 21:50, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Necrothesp proposed Side arm to Sidearm, which is what I was objecting to. Nohomersryan (talk) 22:02, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, okay. From the way you phrased it, it sounded like you wanted to keep Side arm in the same place._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 23:27, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support, per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 22:19, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttp://sabr.org/bioproj/person/47baa7b1

[2] ttp://www.letstalkpitching.com/t/crossfire/9754/6

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