Talk:Sick man of Asia

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Looking up the 2008 academic book cited - which appears to be the main justification for this page's notability - the book's author does *not* assert that the phrase "The Sick Man of Asia" has been widely used to refer to China. Rather, David Scott the author is using the phrase rather to make a comparison *himself*. There is only one other source for the phrase in the book, a 2004 use by another author Callahan (again, Callahan is using the phrase themselves not suggesting it is in widespread usage). Zhanli2012 (talk) 18:10, 9 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"universal epithet for all Chinese."?

quickly turned this phrase into a "universal epithet for all Chinese."

I traced the citation into the author's previous article^[1], and the source^[2]. It doesn't appear to support her conclusion. If anything, it seems to be a counter-arguement. This could be compared with zh:東亞病夫#普及-- Koverpw (talk) 08:11, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Barnes, Nicole Elizabeth (2012). "Disease in the Capital: Nationalist Health Services and the 'Sick [Wo]man of East Asia' in Wartime Chongqing". European Journal of East Asian Studies. 11 (2): 283–303. doi:10.1163/15700615-20121108.
^ 楊, 瑞松 (2005). "想像民族恥辱：近代中國思想文化史上的"東亞病夫". 國立政治大學歷史學報 (23): 1–44. doi:10.30383/TJH.200505_(23).0001.

[1] Barnes, Nicole Elizabeth (2012). "Disease in the Capital: Nationalist Health Services and the 'Sick [Wo]man of East Asia' in Wartime Chongqing". European Journal of East Asian Studies. 11 (2): 283–303. doi:10.1163/15700615-20121108.

[2] 楊, 瑞松 (2005). "想像民族恥辱：近代中國思想文化史上的"東亞病夫". 國立政治大學歷史學報 (23): 1–44. doi:10.30383/TJH.200505_(23).0001.

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