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Is this still a stub?

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To everyone and especially @LadyofShalott and Dennis Brown:

Although this article has a much more start-class appearance than when it was assessed as a stub, much of the body text is from a primary source or seems to be common sense blown in as enfluffment. (I mean, I'm pro-wikilinks but I simply had to delink "hugs.")

The article's structure and especially the content hanging from it are still very weak, although not weak enough to delete the article. I'm on the fence about its stubbiness.

BTW, I haven't checked the Bollywood named reference to see if it contains more than a passing mention of Siblings Day in America. If it doesn't, then those refs do not apply.

Also, I'm sure a photo of celebrating siblings could be found in the Commons, but I wonder if someone asked if the foundation itself would release images and its logo to either the Commons or Wikipedia under a less free license.

Sorry all I can do is point these things out, but my real-life limitations won't let me do more than this. I probably won't even be able to go dump education on the talk page of the vandal who l mentioned in one of my article edit summaries, although I'll try. Thanks in advance! —Geekdiva (talk) 06:38, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ps. The stub template was removed from the article. It will need to be added back in if this article is reassessed as a stub. Thanks for all your hard work! —Geekdiva (talk) 07:27, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I just haven't worked on it much since I started it. Passing mention refs are ok if they are sourcing a specific thing. I think this is big enough that there isn't a worry about WP:Notability now. And by all means, jump in and improve it, it sounds like you already have some ideas. When I first started it, references were much thinner than now, that was over 4 years ago. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 10:17, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Some minor fixes

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I was just perusing the article and noticed the red-lined links in the lead so I've gone ahead and fixed those, as well as one incident of capitalisation. I also removed the link to Claudia Evert as there's currently no article for this person and figured that if someone does make an article in the future, it could be added in. Apologies if that was the wrong way to do it. In the absence of writing up the article (and I'm not a wiki author at any rate), my instinct is to rub out ugly red-links. // Steve 2A02:C7D:2E89:5000:3041:A48F:2CFF:1544 (talk) 19:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm British and I've never heard of it being celebrated

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I'm not sure some UK Newspaper article about siblings day counts as proof that it is celebrated in the UK. I'm British and lived in Britain all my life and I'd never heard of it until I saw the link on Wiki from another page.Lkingscott (talk) 23:08, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some proposed changes

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Edit request
  • Proposed separation of Siblings Day and Brothers and Sisters Day with a separate page for Brothers and Sisters Day
  • My name is Claudia Evart and I am and the founder of Siblings Day and the founder and president of the Siblings Day Foundation.
  • Information to be added or removed: I am writing to request changes to the the Siblings Day article on Wikipedia to correct information added in error. The European Large Families Confederation's Brothers and Sisters Day should have its own article.

Explanation of issue: Bothers and sisters Day (May 31)[1] is a separate holiday from Siblings Day (April 10th) [2] and is on a separate day of the year, even though they celebrate the significance of the relationship between siblings. There is already a precedents for this. The Hindu holiday of Raksha Bandhan has it's own article[3]. Wikipedia has separate pages for Memorial Day[4] in America and for Remembrance Day[5] in the British Commonwealth nations. Of course, the page for Brothers and Sisters Day should be referenced in the Siblings Day article under the "See Also" section and vice-versa. References supporting change: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raksha_Bandhan https://siblingsday.org/ Brothers and Sisters Day https://www.elfac.org/brothers-and-sisters-day/

Information to be added or removed: Siblings Day (a.k.a. National Siblings Day) is a holiday recognized annually in the United States on April 10, [1] [2] and has now spread globally and continues to grow honoring the relationships of siblings. Unlike Mother's Day and Father's Day in the US, it is not federally recognized, though the Siblings Day Foundation (SDF) is working to change this.[19] The commemorative day has been recognized by three US Presidents (Clinton, 2000),(Bush, 2008) and (Obama, 2016). Since 1998, the governors of 49 states have officially issued proclamations to recognize Siblings Day in their state. [19] From its American beginnings the observation has become international. More and more countries, a total of 14, continue or have begun to celebrate Siblings Day on April 10th. They are Australia [5], Brazil [6], Canada [7], Ghana [8], India [9], Ireland [10], Japan [11], New Zealand[12], Nigeria [13], Philippines [14], Singapore[15], South Africa[16], Sweden [17] and United Kingdom [18]. For the past several years, the SDF has been working on establishing a United Nations resolution for an International Siblings Day (a.k.a. World Siblings Day) [1] [3}

Contents • 1 History • 2 Celebration • 3 See also • 4 References • 5 External links

History The international holiday was conceived by Claudia Evart to honor the memory of her brother and sister who died at early ages. The Siblings Day Foundation was incorporated in MA in 1997 and achieved non-profit status in 1999. Carolyn Maloney, then the U.S. Representative for New York's 14th congressional district, officially saluted the holiday and introduced it into the official Congressional Record of the United States Congress on April 10, 1997; and in subsequent years 2001, 2005, 2008 and 2019. [19]

Celebration[edit] In the United States, approximately 80% of people have siblings. [19] [20] The holiday is intended to be a celebration of the relationship of brothers and sisters. Examples of commemoration during this observance include giving your sibling a gift (including a surprise gift), a gift card, taking one out for dinner or taking a walk in the park. Non-material examples of observances during this day includes giving hugs to your sibling(s), do something special like a good deed or favor, errand or chore for their brother or sister, enjoying and appreciating their presence in your life][19]

Related to: Raksha Bandhan 

       The Hindu holiday of Raksha Bandhan also celebrates the bond of brothers and sisters, but it is unrelated to the 				         American holiday.

Children's Day Father's Day Mother's Day Parents' Day; Brothers and Sisters Day

References 1. "Fun Holiday - Siblings Day" http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/fun/siblings-day

2. “National Siblings Day – April 10, 2019” National Today https://nationaltoday.com/national-siblings-day/

3. “World Siblings Day” Remitly Editorial Team retrieved on April 11, 2018. https://blog.remitly.com/global-community/world-siblings-day-2018/ 4. Dixit, Marni (April 11, 2015). "Sister act! Rhiannon Fish joins National Siblings Day celebration by posting throwback snaps of her and sister Miranda in adorable animal-print outfits". Daily Mail Australia. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3034553/Sister-act-Rhiannon-Fish-joins-National-Siblings-Day-celebration-posting-throwback-snaps-sister-Miranda-adorable-animal-print-outfits.html

5. " A queue for the bathroom, but who cares? ”. Fraser Coast Chronicle. April 10, 2015. https://www.frasercoastchronicle.com.au/news/a-queue-for-the-bathroom-but-who-cares/2602571/ 6. Twitter.com #siblingsdayinbrazil 7. Peppers, Margot (April 11, 2014). “Cindy Crawford leads a cast of supermodels paying tribute to National Siblings Day with family-filled throwback snaps”. Daily Mail.com. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2602545/Cindy-Crawford-leads-cast-supermodels-paying-tribute-National-Siblings-Day-family-filled-throwback-snaps.html 

“Top Tweets for National Siblings Day – CANADA”. Wincalendar.com.  April 10, 2019. https://www.wincalendar.com/National-Siblings-Day
8. Eyra Doe, Esther (April 11, 2015).  “Some amazing Facts about National    Siblings Day”.  https://yen.com.gh/43748-today-national-siblings-day-learn-amazing-facts-day.html
9. Kapur, Arjun-Anshula  (April 12, 2015). “Bollywood Celebrates Siblings Day”.  The Times of India. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/Bollywood-celebrates-siblings-day/articleshow/46888799.cms

“Mom, Anshula turned out better than me: Arjun Kapoor pens touching note on Siblings Day. India Today. April 11, 2019. https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/celebrities/story/mom-anshula-turned-out-better-than-me-arjun-kapoor-pens-touching-note-on-siblings-day-1499359-2019-04-11 10. “International Siblings Day: Familiarity Breeds Respect” Irish Examiner. April 11, 2017. https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/features/international-siblings-day-familiarity-breeds-respect-447457.html

“National Siblings Day 2019: Ireland’s biggest sibling chart stars”. Official Charts. April 10, 2019. https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/national-siblings-day-2019-ireland-s-biggest-sibling-chart-stars__26030/ 11. きょうだいの日 シブリングデー - NPO法人しぶたね http://sibtane.com/siblingsdayきょうだいの日（シブリングデー）は、 父の日、母の日の、兄弟姉妹版の日です。Google translator English: Sibling Day Sibling Day-NPO Shibutane; http://sibtane.com/siblingsday. “April 10 is "Sibling" day. Sibling Day is the day of Father's Day, Mother's Day, brothers and sisters version”. NPO Shibutane. April 10, 2018. 12. Despotakis, Costas (April 10, 2019). “Siblings Day trivia: 29 Facts About the Day that you Should Love your Sibling a Little More! UselessDaily . 13. “Nigeria: I Don't Have Worthy Siblings/Family – Tonto”. Vangard. All Africa. April 18, 2014. https://allafrica.com/stories/201404180431.html 14. “Have you showed your sibling love for National Sibling's Day?”. Rappler.com. April 12, 2014. https://www.rappler.com/technology/social-media/55288-national-siblings-day-2014 15. “It’s National Siblings Day Today! Tag your Siblings and Comment their Favorite Cookie (s)”. Subway Singapore on Instagram. April 9, 2019. https://www.instagram.com/p/BwDkn7fgC4c/ 16. Maré, Nadine (April 10, 2017). “It is National sibling Day! The Bond Between Siblings is Extra Special“. Krugersdorp News. https://krugersdorpnews.co.za/323513/maandag-it-is-national-sibling-day/

17. HÄLSOLIV / MÄNSKLIGT Syskonkärlek! 7 skäl att krama dina syskon. https://www.expressen.se/halsoliv/manskligt/syskonkarlek-7-skal-att-krama-dina-syskon/ Google Translation: Healthy Human “Sisterly Love 7 Reasons to Hug your Siblings”. Healthy Human. April 9, 2017. 18. Wilkinson, Abi (April 11, 2015). “National Siblings Day: 17 Things Only Eldest Siblings will Truly be Able to Understand”. Mirror. 

“Siblings Day: All you need to know”.   Daily Mail.com. April 9, 2018. https://www.mirror.co.uk/usvsth3m/national-siblings-day-17-things-5502093

19 "Siblings Day Foundation". Archived from the original on April 15, 2013. https://web.archive.org/web/20130415034008/http:/www.siblingsday.org/fact-sheet

20 Maloney, Carolyn B. (March 22, 2005). "Congressional Record Extensions of Remarks" (PDF). In Honor of Siblings Day Retrieved March 22, 2013.[ https://www.congress.gov/crec/2010/04/13/CREC-2010-04-13-pt1-PgE525-2.pdf

Explanation of issue: Separation of Siblings Day and European Large Families Confederation's Brothers and Sisters Day References supporting change: see above

References

  1. ^ https://www.elfac.org/brothers-and-sisters-day/
  2. ^ https://siblingsday.org/
  3. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raksha_Bandhan
  4. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day#See_also
  5. ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day#Similar_observances_outside_the_Commonwealth

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Claudia Evart (talk • contribs) 02:13, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reply 6-FEB-2020

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  Please use WP:RMCM or WP:AFC  

  • The request is complicated in that it appears to be asking for both a new article to be created and the current article to be re-titled. That requires following two different pathways:
  1. Requests to change this article's title should be submitted using the {{requested move}} template specifically as a controversial move request process requiring discussion amongst the wider community. A controversial requested move typically takes about 7 days to complete. More information can be found at requested moves.
  2. Requests to create a new article should be proposed using articles for creation.
  • Both requests supersede the abilities of a single COI reviewer, thus it is recommended that they follow the above pathways. The COI editor is also kindly reminded of the need to sign all talk page posts using four tildes.

Regards,  Spintendo  07:17, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

None of this should be done anyway. There are more and more competing Siblings/Brothers and Sisters/Sisters/Brothers Days in various jurisdictions (see thread below), very rarely ever official anywhere, and they are best covered in a single page (a set-index article, basically) since they are really all esssentially the same encyclopedic topic just with competing dates and exact scopes, in different regions. That is, a request to create the desired separate new article would probably fail, and if it succeeded due to lack of close attention-paying by AfC reviewers, then a request to merge that WP:CONTENTFORK would likely succeed. And an RM to change this to the more specific title the CoI user requested would almost certainly fail, since "Siblings Day" is the more WP:COMMONNAME by an almost 2:1 ratio, and also better complies with WP:CONCISE policy (while the separate "Brothers" and "Sisters" more specific versions do not cover the scope of the article).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  17:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could use expansion and redirects

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There's a Sisters Day also called National Sisters Day or International Sisters Day and unoffically adopted in various countries including the US, but originating in India, that is the 1st Sun. in Aug. (so it was Aug. 4 this year). There's an April 10 annual Siblings Day that seems to have been organized via social media platforms for the last several years, and allegedly has some state/province-level recognition in parts of the US and Canada. Also a competing Brothers & Sisters Day on May 2 every year (in N. Am., but May 31 in Europe). I'm also aware of a separate Brothers Day (started in 2005) on May 24.

Anyway, there also need to be a bunch of redirects from form like "[X]'s Day", "[X]s' Day", "National [X]s Day", "National [X]'s Day", "National [X]s' Day", "International [X]s Day", "International [X]'s Day", and "International [X]s' Day", so that readers arrive at the right page (I guess this is something of a set-index article). Most of these variants are presently red links.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  17:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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