Talk:Shukubo

Rife with incorrect content

Immanuelle (talk · contribs) continues her apparent trend of "translating" content she clearly doesn't understand.

Let us look at this recent edit.

In Japanese culture, an "shukubō" (or "shukufuku") is a lodging facility for travelers, typically located within a temple or shrine. The term can refer to a variety of structures, including guest rooms for visiting monks or pilgrims, living quarters for resident priests, and buildings used for ascetic practices by priests.

The word "shukubō" can also be used to refer to the specific temple or shrine where a person is affiliated with, or to refer to a place used for secret rendezvous.

In the context of historical Japan, shukubō were also used by feudal lords and their retainers during their pilgrimage to Nikko. These lords did not have their own shukubō, instead they were assigned to certain shukubō and had to pay respects to their lord, the shogun, through these shukubō.

References

The reference

• The "last" field of the reference actually includes the titles of two different reference words, デジタル大辞泉 (Dejitaru Daijisen, a dictionary), and 世界大百科事典内言及 -- a clumsily copy-pasted string, the actual title being 世界大百科事典 (Sekai Dai Hyakka Jiten, "World Big Encyclopedia"), and the 内言及 part being "mentions within", as this feature of the Kotobank website will provide excerpts from this encyclopedia that mention the headword: in this case, 宿坊 (shukubō).
• The "title" field of the reference, 宿坊(シュクボウ)とは？ (Shukubō to wa?, "what is a 'shukubō'?") is not actually present anywhere on the page. I don't know where this came from.

First paragraph

• There are two words shukufuku in Japanese, and neither of them is a synonym for shukubō: wikt:祝福 ("a blessing"), wikt:宿福 ("virtue or positive karma from one's previous lives"). No string しゅくふく (shukufuku spelled in hiragana) appears anywhere on the referenced page. I am baffled where Immanuelle got this.
• Shukubō are not "typically located within a temple or shrine", which sounds like physically within the temple or shrine building. They are often separate structures elsewhere on the grounds.

Second paragraph

• "The word "shukubō" can also be used to refer to ... a place used for secret rendezvous."

→ Irrelevant lexicographic information. This appears to be an obsolete slang use of the term. Such detail belongs in a dictionary entry, but not here.

Third paragraph

• "In the context of historical Japan, shukubō were also used by feudal lords and their retainers during their pilgrimage to Nikko. These lords did not have their own shukubō, instead they were assigned to certain shukubō and had to pay respects to their lord, the shogun, through these shukubō."

→ This appears to have been invented by Immanuelle, or by whatever machine translation system she is using. The indicated reference does not back this up.

I must strongly request that Immanuelle cease this work. She is creating articles that indiscriminately contain correct content intermixed with possibly plausible but incorrect content. This is damaging to Wikipedia. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 02:53, 24 January 2023 (UTC)