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Poll to determine support for move from Shishapangma to Xixabangma

First-hand account of the first ascent?

Does anyone know if there is a first hand account of the first ascent of Shishapangma? I’ve found them for all the other 8000ers except Shishapangma and Manaslu, and if they exist I would like to add them to the bibliography sections of these mountains’ articles.--Wikimedes (talk) 04:52, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

In English the following sources are available;
  • 1) "Mountaineering in China", Foreign Language Press 1965 (Yakushi jT93)
  • 2) Zhou Zeng & Liu Zhenkai: "Footprints on the peaks: Mountaineering in China", Cloudcap 1995.
  • 3) "Photographic record of the Mount Shisha Pangma Scientific Expedition", Science Press Peking 1966, distributed by Guozi Shuddian. (Yakushi C189)
The two sources that I've marked with a Yakushi entry are the ones that are listed as "firsts" in the index.
Hope this is of any help. Qwrk (talk) 09:17, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I added #3 to the bibliography, since the pictures of the first ascent must have been by the first ascenders. I don't see Guozi Shuddian on the list of summiters and I can't tell if he was on the expedition (or is a publisher?). Mountaineering in China looks like it is also a photographic account. That the book be by a first ascender is just my own criteria for the particular mission I'm on at the moment; someone else may decide that #s 1 and 2 should be added to the article.--Wikimedes (talk) 22:06, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
I've made a small correction to this, as Guozi Shuddian is listed in the Yakushi as "distributor", whatever that may be; a person, a company or a ministry. (Funny to see you add a link to Greg's site ;-) I'll check that later.)
While I do understand your preference for a "first hand" account, at times this is impossible, or it takes a lot of checking to find out. I tend to follow Yakushi as there's a great number of books that have not been written by first ascenders, so the publications that deal with the topic of the "first ascent" fit my definition well enough.Qwrk (talk) 06:58, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Climbing ascents - please provide citations

When adding ascents, please provide a citation. Also, a route. Every ascent is not notable, so please do not be offended if your favorite ascent is deleted as non-notable. Thanks. Ratagonia (talk) 21:29, 29 February 2012 (UTC)