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Good articleShinjuku riot has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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September 13, 2021Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 22, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that anti–Vietnam War protesters occupied Shinjuku Station in 1968, causing the equivalent of US$18 million in financial losses?
On this day...Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on October 21, 2021, October 21, 2023, and October 21, 2024.

GA Review

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Reviewer: Gabriel Yuji (talk · contribs) 15:41, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article seems to be well-written and sourced. I'll review it soon. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 15:41, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My initial commentaries:

  • I would recommend using the parameter "|lead=yes" in the Nihongo template.
  • I think you should rephrase the second sentence of the article to avoid the repetition of "took place" (i.e. "...that took place on 21 October 1968. The incident took place in the context...").
  • Per MOS:LEADCITE it's not necessary to source information that fits the body of the article. That is, you should remove the citations about the "International Anti-War Day," the March on the Pentagon and the tally of activists from the lead. And this information is pretty important to be only in the lead. As you probably now, the lead is like a summary of the rest of the article. You should include these facts somewhere in the body of the article.
  • Be consistent with your usage of either "Shinjuku station" or "Shinjuku Station" (including in the infobox). I have no preference, but the referred article uses a capital "S"; also, beware of MOS:DUPLINK since you link it three times without any particular consistency (i.e. in "Background" you don't link it at the first occurence, but at the third instance).
  • According to MOS:ENTO, you must use "–" instead of "-" in the "1968-69 Japanese university protests".
  • It's not mandatory per MOS:US, but it's probably nice to write "United States" at the first mention (i.e. "U.S.-led war in Vietnam") instead of simply "U.S.".
  • Try a synonym for "largerly" in the last sentence ("The riot was largely broken up by the morning of 22 October due to the invocation of the Anti-Riot Law by police, an act that was condoned largely").
  • Choose a standard form to present dates; for example, you mostly adopted DMY format (e.g. 21 October 1968 in the lead), but you also use MDY format (August 8, 1967 in "Background"); see MOS:DATEUNIFY.
  • Per MOS:BADDATE, you must not use "On the 26th".
  • Per MOS:RANGE, you should write "a group of 6–8 thousand activists", not "a group of 6-8 thousand activists"; the same is valid for "an estimated 35-55 thousand" and "around 12-14 thousand".
  • I didn't understand this part: "However, they were beaten back by police with water cannons and tear gas, something which the police twisted to create a negative public opinion of the activists"? What's the meaning of "twisted" here? To distort the truth? If yes, could you provide more information on it? How did the police created a negative public opinion of the activists by injuring them? At first, I think it would create a negative opinion on the police who beat pacific(?) protesters.
  • MOS:DUPLINK of Beheiren and Sōhyō in the "Background" section.
  • What's a "liberated quarter"? Please, provide some context or add a note about it.
  • According to MOS:LABEL, you should avoid using "controversial" to describe something as you do in "the police invoked the controversial Anti-Riot Law"; remove it or provide some context.
  • The Asahi Shimbun should be written in italics; see: MOS:ITALICTITLE.
  • "and in favor the police" is missing an "of" between "favor" and "the".
  • About the last sentence of "Aftermath" ("This reinforced the legitimacy of police using force to quell protests, increasing their confidence in using harsher measures against activists, including as mass arrests and assaults on occupied campuses"), is there any examples you could cite to illustrate it?

Roniius, ping me once you do the required changes or in case of any disagreement, doubts, replies, etc. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 17:28, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Gabriel Yuji: I think I've addressed all your concerns. Roniiustalk to me 06:07, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent, @Roniius:. Sorry for the late reply. The article is ok to be a GA, as I just moved some information to the body in consonance with my third point (that you agreed with). Maybe you could add any information on the trial of the protesters. The Japanese article seems to have some information in the section "裁判" (trial), although I cannot precise how useful is the information since I only understand it through Google Translator. But maybe even if it's useless you can find some information about the trial in the sources you already researched in. Anyway, this addition is kind of optional, but certainly would be required if this was a Featured Article Reviews—which is not the case, so I'll simply pass it by now. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 02:40, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk17:13, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that in 1968, anti-Vietnam War protesters occupied Shinjuku Station, causing the equivalent of US$18 million in financial losses? Source: Andrews, William (15 August 2016). Dissenting Japan: A History of Japanese Radicalism and Counterculture from 1945 to Fukushima. Hurst. ISBN 978-1-84904-919-1. p. 113

Improved to Good Article status by Roniius (talk). Self-nominated at 13:14, 14 September 2021 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes

QPQ: No - Has not been completed.
Overall: I'm not sure whether USD is the best option for currency in the hook, as that seems to me a little US-centric for a protest happening in Japan about something else that was happening in Vietnam, but if that's what's given in the hook's source, I suppose it's not a big deal. Good to go pending QPQ completion. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 04:17, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The USD figure is probably fine provided wording that goes something like "the equivalent of" is used, since it happened in Japan and not the US. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:01, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Roniius: It's been 10 days since you said you'd do a QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Roniius: could you amend the hook slightly to take into account the suggestion by Narutolovehinata5 above ("the equivalent of US$18 million...")? PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 06:19, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
QPQ has been added and hook has been updated, so we're good to go. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 14:36, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To T:DYK/P6