Talk:Shank Hall/Archive 1

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton talk 17:31, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that actor Corey Feldman knocked his own tooth out at Shank Hall? Source: the lead singer knocked his own tooth out with his microphone about 30 minutes into his set.
  • ALT1: ... that a Milwaukee concert venue named Shank Hall took its name from the movie This Is Spinal Tap? Source: How did you come up with the name? PJ: It’s from "This Is Spinal Tap." In the film, Spinal Tap played in Milwaukee at a then-fictitious club named Shank Hall.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Heat Flow Experiment

Created by Lightburst (talk). Self-nominated at 00:59, 1 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Shank Hall; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Article is new enough, long enough, and neutral in tone. Earwig is clean, and a spot check revealed no issues. QPQ done. Both hooks are interesting and well sourced. My preference is for ALT1 just because I love that film, but I'll leave the final decision to the promoter. Nice work! DrOrinScrivello (talk) 14:20, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Edits

@MarconiCheese: Your edits are not helpful and you are tagging CN when the material is cited. Your preference and citation style is not the same as the article. Please discuss here before forcing your preferences. Lightburst (talk) 22:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Your edits are not the least bit helpful.

• MDY dates are a requirement for American articles, not a "preference". You have reverted the date format for no reason whatsoever. What about MOS:DATETIES do you not understand?
• You have added trivial, unsourced material to the lede. What about WP:BURDEN do you not understand?
• You have provided the wrong newspaper name in citations: The proper name of the newspaper is Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, not Journal Sentinel.
• You have misused words (signage means multiple signs or a system of signs, not a single sign), substituting a pseudosophisticated word for a plain English word. Also, try reading MOS:CLAIM.
• You have failed to provide proper sources. "According to permits" is not a valid source. First, permits are a WP:PRIMARY SOURCE. Second, there is no citation to the source. What permits? Where? Issued by whom? CITE YOUR SOURCE!
• You insist on using ungrammatical, fractured wording that sounds like it was written by a fourth grader. "it was named Farwell Avenue Garage, and it was to store and repair motor vehicles" is just plain awkward English. Are you a non-native speaker?
• You insist on duplicating information: "The building is owned by Peter Jest, and it is a one-story brick building...offices were built at the front of the one-story building" Why is it necessary to repeat that the building is a one-story one?
• You have used curly apostrophes, instead of straight apostrophes. What about "Use straight apostrophes ('), not curly apostrophes (’)" do you not understand?

Respectfully, MarconiCheese (talk) 14:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

@MarconiCheese: I hope we can dial it down. I find your points above full of hostility. Saying I write like a fourth grader and English may not be my first language is not collegial. I am sure some of your MOS edits are fine, but I found it easier to undo your edits because you introduced a strange cite style and kept tagging items that were cited . See examples in this edit you added two citations that are not needed and not congruent with the cite style in the article. This one, and this one, .

The article was edited to your preference and after you refactored it you added the comical edit summary "Dept of Redundancy"

In this edit you also forced your own preference which I do not think is mos. Changing US to United States is fine, but in General admission "admission" should not be capitalized for this use.

When I say "according to permits", that is from the article, not from OR or me reading primary documents. Lightburst (talk) 16:44, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Here "he named the venue Shank Hall in honor of the cult classic movie This Is Spinal Tap," you added a tag, but the the rs says, "How did you come up with the name? "It’s from This Is Spinal Tap. In the film, Spinal Tap played in Milwaukee at a then-fictitious club named Shank Hall." Lightburst (talk) 16:44, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

The bit about the 2017 demolition of the back building was in the RS, presented in the RS as a summer 2017 demo. My pictures show that it was in fact torn down but you are right that it needs RS to show past that it was completed so I re moved that bit.

So I saw some of your edits as incorrect and introducing a different citation style, and misinterpreting rs. Lightburst (talk) 16:44, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

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