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Merge discussion for Shanghai Railway Station (Metro)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was Not merged. The merge proposal was made in October 2012 and one reply opposing it was made in April 2016. Since the proposal was made, both articles have been been expanded and the scope of each article seems to have been specified with hatnotes. I'm closing it as not merged with no prejudice to any new merge proposals. (non-admin closure)--Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:06, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

An article that you have been involved in editing, Shanghai Railway Station (Metro) , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Steve chiu (talk) 16:57, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think its really silly to have 2 small articles about a station that is more are less connected to each other and share the same name. I'm well aware that other station articles in China do this too but Beijing's doesn't and I think it works fine.Steve chiu (talk) 16:57, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is wrong to merge these two pages as they are very different. They are part of different transportation systems and are located at different places. There should be somewhere in this article, though, where there is a list of available transport. Also, people have expanded since 2012 on both articles so now it is better to leave them seperate. Opacitatic (talk) 01:28, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Crime cause

I removed the sentence about crime being caused by migrant workers, pending documentation. This is rather a sensitive topic and such statements should not be made lightly. Perhaps it could be changed to:

Among native Shanghainese this is often said to be caused by migrant workers hoping to find a future in the city but unable to find work because of the intense competition.

But on the whole it seems unnecessary for an article on a metro station.

— Pekinensis 14:13, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think the articles would all remain rather small if you really only strictly discuss the metro station. The metro stations usually represent a somewhat larger area after which they are named, I think it is proper to discuss those parts together with the metro station.

Good idea. — Pekinensis 21:10, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I don't know what 'native Shanghainese' say about the situation, as I am not one of them. Instead I got my information in this particular case from local police officers that mentioned the railway station is among the highest crime areas of the city. CyeZ 16:12, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I follow your argument. I am also not Shanghainese, but have a sense of what they say by listening to them. Not all but many of them have quite a lot of unkind things to say about the outsiders. I believe these unkind things belong in an encyclopedia only if they are shown to be true by good evidence, in the context of a balanced, in-depth, and careful analysis.

I am not accusing you of prejudice, and I certainly believe that the railway station is among the highest crime areas of the city, but blaming it on the outsiders deserves great caution.

I admit that my own personal experiences and especially those of my wife, while nothing dramatic at all, have made me somewhat sensitive about this issue.

Why do you put 'native Shanghainese' in quotes?

— Pekinensis 21:10, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes its true, many of them do think badly about people from other provinces.

I'll leave out the comment, until I might come up with something better that would not be considered offensive.

As for the putting native Shanghainese in quotes: I didnt really do it deliberately. I think its because I think quite few of those living in Shanghai are actually native Shanghainese but are actually from nearby towns and cities. CyeZ 01:42, 13 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, this is true. Thank you. — Pekinensis 16:51, 13 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Problem sentence

"Unlike other Chinese cities Shanghai Railway Station is the only station of significant size in Shanghai and handles all departures" I thought there was also a Shanghai South station and a couple of other stations that handle significant traffic. Need experts. --Sumple (Talk) 22:46, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Writing of Shanghai stations in English

I have moved back Shanghai Railway Station and Shanghai South Railway Station to capital letter writing, as the names are used as proper names and this writing is found in almost all official translations concerning these stations I know of (also check English language versions of Chinese government websites for this and other Chinese cities' station names). Bluebird47 03:27, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name in Chinese

The lead gives 上海火车站 as the name in Chinese; while this is a direct translation of "Shanghai Railway Station", we can see in the photo that it is actually labelled 上海站, which I understand as simply the Chinese for "Shanghai Station". Perhaps this should be changed? Imaginatorium (talk) 08:00, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These names can be used interchangeably in Chinese. The name of this station is simply "上海 Shanghai", and it is a "站 station", or a "火车站 railway station". You can even call it "铁路上海站". Glenxoseph (talk) 23:45, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]