Talk:Shalimar Bagh, Srinagar

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Did you know... that the shores of Dal Lake in India (pictured) contain Mughal gardens Shalimar Bagh and Nishat Bagh known as "the jewel of Kashmir valley"?

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If there is a paradise on earth, it is this, it is this, it is this Is the inscription in the Red Fort throne room. This is also apparently the quote that every Mughal Emperor used everytime any building was contructed. I am not so sure about this quote. but the Wah Garden is naled for the fact that when the Emperor Jehangir was travelling to kashmir as he did every spring to avoid Delhi's summer he was breathtaken by the scenery of a particular piece of country side and he exclaimed "Wah" and ordered a garden to be built there. he stayed at the garden twice a year on his way to Kashmir and on his way back to Delhi. you can see the remnants of the garden today which is about an hours drive from Islamabad. This story might also be apocryphal but at least you can find it in Mughal annals.

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@Adilalishah to clarify, the two "external verifiable citations" [1] that were added aren't really considered a reliable source. The first is a link to the album on apple music and also doesn't verify the content that you added. And the second citation is just a link to the actual poem. Again, it doesn't mention that the poem's title is in reference to the gardens.

Also, two of your edits [2] were unsourced and we usually don't use wikilinks as sources, see WP:UGC. In reference to your comment about researching and verifying the claims, it's up to the editor, WP:BURDEN, not the reader to verify the info. Eucalyptusmint (talk) 23:26, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have supplied references to reliable sources to the facts claimed in the section I added previously. Therefore, I have manually reverted your edits. If you find any errors, please feel free to reply. Adilalishah 00:55, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can you specifically point out the sentence(s) in these references where it mentions that the word Shalimar is in reference to this garden? I'm not seeing it mentioned anywhere. Moreover the link to wikipedia page about the movie mentions that Shalimar was a name of the diamond in the movie, is there a reason why it's being included on this page? Eucalyptusmint (talk) 15:59, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You pointed me to the exact direction. In the movie itself, there are indirect references made to the the garden but that definitely would is not be sufficient evidence. Thanks a lot! I have removed the same. Adilalishah 16:41, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great! It seems that this may also be the case for the poem and book, since the sources you cited don't mention this info specifically. I did do a quick search as well to see if I could find any WP:RS that can verify this, but I wasn't able to find any. So I've removed that info. Eucalyptusmint (talk) 00:05, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you have actually gone through the citations to make sure whether the text is about the garden or just a generic name. Next time you want to delete this section, you are requested to kindly follow the citation and read the cited material properly (and not just do a 'quick search') before making any changes. It really takes time and research to include information to Wikipedia. I hope you will appreciate that. Adilalishah 00:31, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I do, and yes I did look through the citations and that's why I had asked you above to point out where they made references to the garden for the poem and the book as I wasn't able to find it (to your point about ensuring that the info is about the gardens and not a generic name as the movie info was). Eucalyptusmint (talk) 01:15, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]