Talk:Sexual maturation disorder

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The phrases "gender identity confusion" and "gender identity issues" should not be used to describe transgender people. It is disputed whether transgender people are confused or not. The word "issues" has a negative connotation; a word with more neutral connotation should be used instead.

The use of the terms "abnormal" and "normal" to refer to gender identity and sexual orientation have a connotation of value judgment. Terms like "minority, "majority," "heterosexual," and "transgender" are far less biased.

The use of the pronoun "he" to describe someone who is biologically male but identifies as a female disrespects her identity. Since not everybody can agree on which pronoun is appropriate for such a person, the article should probably be rewritten to avoid gendered pronouns.

The entire "Gender identity issues with late adolescents and in adulthood" section fails to differentiate between sexual maturation disorder and gender identity disorder.

The phrase "self-mutilation" carries an extremely negative connotation and is strongly associated with the specific behavior of cutting. If people with sexual maturation disorder tend to engage in behaviors such as cutting, the phrase is appropriate but should probably come with additional explanation. If the person who wrote the article is suggesting that sex-reassignment surgery is self-mutilation, this sounds like intentional bias against sex reassignment surgery and the phrase "self-mutilation" should not be used at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.36.95.158 (talk) 06:03, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested overhaul and reporting of minor change

Hi Wikipedians! I really like this article. One suggestion for future work on this article would be to incorporate updated information and language from the DSM-5 (APA, 2013) to replace the outdated information from the DSM-IV-TR.

I am also confused as to why sexual maturation disorder and gender identity disorder are listed in the same article. Also, when the DSM-IV-TR is being quoted in the section "Gender identity issues with late adolescents and in adulthood" (under the article about sexual maturation disorder), it gets confusing as to which disorder is being written about. My understanding is that "sexual maturation disorder" was not formally recognized in IV-TR and rather would have been coded as 302.9 Sexual Disorder NOS, so in reading this article I am often having a hard time determining whether a particular section was about sexual maturation disorder (ICD), what have been Sexual Disorder NOS (IV-TR), Gender Identity Disorder (ICD/DSM-IV-TR), or the updated term "Gender Dysphoria" (DSM-5). As I went back up and reread the headings and flow, I realized that you were quoting the DSM-IV-TR in regards to what was once known as GID -- but I would suggest restructuring this in such a way that avoids the need for a double-take. Again, I think updating this page to reflect the current diagnostic criteria and information from the DSM-5 will help greatly, and perhaps splitting GID/Gender Dysphoria off from sexual maturation disorder entirely (i.e., put them in separate articles).

I made two minor changes in the section entitled "Gender identity issues with late adolescents and in adulthood"to improve clarity: "in a gender role society" sounds strange to me. I think what was intended is "in a society with strict gender roles" or something to that effect. I also substituted "self-mutilation" with self-injurious behavior, and justify this not only based on the prior post on this talk page but also in recognition of the fact that self-injury can take many forms, not all of which result in mutilation to tissue.

Thanks!

Flinnre (talk) 05:29, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

references

References are badly messed up. I attempted to correct it , but it still needs more work.--Mark v1.0 (talk) 17:20, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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cleanup - new sources needed

On closer examination the article turned out to be a lot less substantial than it looks. I started cleaning up by removing duplicate or irrelevant sources (many completely wrong topic but containing keywords 'sexual' and 'maturation'). That was most of them.

What's left is long sections of unsourced, personal-essay writing on the topics of puberty and gender identity disorder. Removing these except where a connection to sexual maturation disorder is explained in sources.

I think in the end all that will be left of the present article is the fact that it is listed in the ICD10 and that it is sometimes mentioned as a differential diagnosis for gender identity disorder. More sources are needed to explain the concept of 'sexual maturation disorder' better. CyreJ (talk) 19:18, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what to do with this fact and citation Korte et al. list sexual maturation disorder as one of the main differential diagnoses for gender identity disorder in childhood and adolescence.^[1] (found and inserted by me, as it's one of the few things mentioning SMD at all). It's about how to diagnose gender identity disorder in childhood, and the name and criteria of this diagnosis have now changed in the DSM. So the article is now outdated? CyreJ (talk) 07:50, 23 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Korte A, Lehmkuhl U, Goecker D, Beier KM, Krude H, Grüters-Kieslich A (2008). "Gender identity disorders in childhood and adolescence: currently debated concepts and treatment strategies". Dtsch Arztebl Int. 105: 834–41. doi:10.3238/arztebl.2008.0834. PMC 2697020. PMID 19578420.

Substantial rewrite

With huge thanks to User:Cyrej, who made such great edits to this article in 2019, I just made another substantive revision in light of the fact that this diagnostic category was deleted from the ICD-11. In short, sexual maturation disorder is no longer a thing. RadicalCopyeditor (talk) 14:32, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Korte A, Lehmkuhl U, Goecker D, Beier KM, Krude H, Grüters-Kieslich A (2008). "Gender identity disorders in childhood and adolescence: currently debated concepts and treatment strategies". Dtsch Arztebl Int. 105: 834–41. doi:10.3238/arztebl.2008.0834. PMC 2697020. PMID 19578420.

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