Talk:Seventh generation of video game consoles/Archive 7

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360 is 3D?

According to this article the 360 has 3D support. I have never heard of this before. I can not find a source for it either, and there is no mention of 3D on the 360's actual page. Can anybody back this claim up? DanielDPeterson + talk 11:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Shouldn't the seventh generation be (2004-) not (2005-)?

This generation includes the Nintendo DS, which was launched in 2004, but the by generation section lists Seventh (2005–).

The same is true for the eighth being listed as (2012-) when the Nintendo 3DS launched in 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.208.109 (talk) 23:12, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

• You would think so by looking at the article since it has all that info on handheld systems, but technically speaking the console generation numbering scheme refers to the home consoles only and not the handhelds, so 2005 would be correct. Really, wikipedia should probably have separate articles for handheld generations since handhelds technically fall outside the scope of this and every other generational article and are on a completely different cyclical track. Indrian (talk) 23:40, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. The handhelds are always problematic when trying to fit into a console generation which have by their history been defined by home machines as that's what the first few generations solely were. Similarly, as cut down versions of current/past generation home machines but with added new tech they tend to be both this/last generation and next generation simultaneously if that makes any sense. I've never heard of handheld generations being referred to in the media though so ultimately they're going to get stuck with the home generation whose timeline they were released into. danno 21:13, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

PlayStation 3 controller "wired configuration"

It is mentioned that the PlayStation 3's controller can be used in wired and wireless configurations. Though it is true you can connect the controller to the console to charge it, you are still technically connected through bluetooth. This can be done on Xbox 360 as well, using the "play and charge kit". The wired Xbox 360 controller uses a USB connection to function with the console, which is why it has become so popular as a PC input device as well.

This is fairly minor, but I thought it was worth pointing out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.153.138.98 (talk) 20:29, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

DLC

In my opinion it would be relevant to mention (maybe even make a section about) the introduction during this seventh generation of the ubiquitous use and selling of downloadable content (DLC) by the developers and video game companies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downloadable_content — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.83.82.226 (talk) 22:02, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Parent article.

Hi guys,

This history article contains a great deal of non-history based information, and it's also very large. I've begun separating the non-history stuff into a parent article (the list of consoles, etc). I'm sure you'll agree that this is a much better idea than what I was thinking of a couple of weeks ago.

InternetMeme (talk) 09:30, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

As I said on your talk page, you need to wait and let discussion happen on making such major changes, not just announce the changes and then go make them. Sergecross73 msg me 18:50, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

• Opposed - I think any major changes need to be discussed at WP:VG because I believe these names and articles were made for a reason, and I want to hear other people's stance before committing to said changes. Sergecross73 msg me 18:50, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
• Opposed - I don't believe the articles need to be separate. The specs of the consoles, and what you want to split is part of the history and should be in this page. _Blake ^{(Talk·Edits)} 20:49, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Wii Mini?

Should it be added to the Wii section now that it is being released in Europe as well as Canada? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guyb123321 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

It has been released here in USA as well. Shouldn't it be mentioned in the comparison chart, such as dimensions and weight? Here is an article for referencing http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/12/hardware_review_wii_mini Xeccos (talk) 01:32, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Apparently the article is edited by Sony/Microsoft fanboys who are totally ignoring the international release of the Wii Mini.2602:304:CFD3:2EE0:F088:37CF:DC5F:258E (talk) 21:35, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Can we remove Wii Sports from the 'milestone' list?

I'm sorry, but to me, I don't think that a game that come packaged with every console should count as a milestone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.160.16.143 (talk) 09:54, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind knowing what constitutes as a "milestone". Some such as those being innovative or named all time greats by a wide range makes sense while simply "gained acclaim" seems fickle and applicable to many games not mentioned at all. Otherwise, the wording on some could be improved. Stabby Joe (talk) 00:02, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Next gen?

As far as I know this console generation pretty much defined the term "next gen". I had never heard it before the Xbox 360 and/or PlayStation 3 were announced (at least in the context of game consoles) and the term was used to refer to this generation for many years (I'd argue that it was used far more often than "seventh generation"). Oddly enough it is not used in the article a single time. I think the article should mention that "next gen" is the term that was most commonly used for this generation for a long time, certainly by gamers and journalists. I am not sure how popular it was among publishers and developers. I would add it myself but considering that this is a huge and highly professional article I believe that there are reasons why it cannot be found here. I think someone else would be more qualified to add this piece of information (or provide a reason why the term should be completely excluded from the article - such as me being ignorant about the fact that it was actually used for earlier console generations). --F4LL0UT (talk) 19:44, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

"Next gen" is a moving target, refering to the next generation after the current one. Right now, the term is used to defined the eighth generation (Xbox One, PS4 , Wii U) consoles, as this seventh gen is the "current" gen and phasing out. 5-6 years, this seventh gen was "next gen" with the Gamecube, PS2 being current gen consoles. --MASEM (t) 19:57, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

When the PlayStation, Saturn, and N64 were getting ready to launch, a magazine was started to cover them called Next Generation; the concept has been around for a long time. Indrian (talk) 20:01, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

"Other" 7th gen consoles

I collect consoles and use the Wikipedia pages a lot. However, for me personally, there is a fair bit of confusion around the "other" consoles and I don't really understand them. - Are some of them simply online services like Steam, rather than consoles? - Do they all use online stores for games and - Do some of them share the same store (i.e. Google Play?) - Do any of them take separate roms (discs or cards) or anything? - Are they comparable hardware wise? I know these console generation pages get long, so extra sections may be unpopular, but could there be a link to a seperate "Other console" comparison page? CrazyFoolMrT (talk) 14:23, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Generally, consoles are divided into four types currently... Home, Handheld, Micro, and Dedicated. Micro began to become a thing during the 7th generation but gained a more solid "label" during the 8th. Most of the Android based consoles we see now are considered Microconsoles. Dedicated is generally those consoles with a specific set of content that (in general) cannot be expanded, such as Atari Flashback. The "Other" section of the generation articles however tends to be used to differentiate between the clear industry leaders, which sources refer to by generations, and those consoles with a much less following that are simply released during the same period and in many cases never have a "generation" named by sources... It's a somewhat artificial line unfortunately during the 7th generation. During the 8th generation, as mentioned above, most of these "other" consoles have clearly been microconsoles. -- ferret (talk) 14:33, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

I think the use of an "other" label within the 7th gen consoles is quite confusing for normal readers. It may also be confused with the "Other" generation that the template also contains. I guess we may include Game Wave (the only console currently labeled as the "Other" type in the entire template) as home consoles just like what Logopedia does. --Cartakes (talk) 21:30, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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