Talk:Sentinel-class cutter/Archive 1

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USCGC Raymond Evans?

This newspaper article asserts that a USCGC Raymond Evans will be one of the cutters homeported in Key West. Geo Swan (talk) 17:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Sean Kinney (2013-11-13). "First of six new Keys Coast Guard cutters is commissioned Saturday". Key News. Archived from the original on 2013-11-14. Retrieved 2013-11-14. The five others to be based in Key West are, like the David, named after prominent Coasties -- the Charles W. Sexton, Kathleen Moore, Raymond Evans, William Trump and Isaac Mayo. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

Other sources say the 10th vessel will be the USCGC Joseph Napier (WPC-1110), the the Raymond Evans. Geo Swan (talk) 18:05, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Refugee

So, I really don't want get into the fight I foresee, from this getting political, so I am just going to point out something and let y'all figure it out. In the operational histories section, first paragraph, the article reads "effective at interdicting desperate refugees". The problem is that you do not interdict refugees. Refugees are processed into your country and you have a very specific set of criteria to be considered a refugee. The USCG is in the business of "alien interdiction operations", which I have seen some official lines even calling it "alien migrant interdiction operations" but never "interdicting desperate refugees". That is worded that way, to obviously elicit a specific response. El Heuro (talk) 03:11, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

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rough work (1)

Following are search strings for the namesakes of cutters 35-54...

-Geo Swan (talk) 01:19, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

rough work (2)

name	namesake	date started	notes
USCGC Bernard C. Webber (WPC-1101)	Bernard C. Webber	2015-07-12
USCGC William Flores (WPC-1103)	William Flores	2011-12-02
USCGC Robert Yered (WPC-1104)	Robert Yered	2012-04-20
USCGC Margaret Norvell (WPC-1105)	Margaret Norvell	2013-01-03
USCGC Paul Clark (WPC-1106)	Paul Leaman Clark	2013-01-04
USCGC Charles David Jr. (WPC-1107)	Charles David Jr.	2013-01-04
USCGC Charles W. Sexton (WPC-1108)	Charles W. Sexton	2007-05-16
USCGC Kathleen Moore (WPC-1109)	Kathleen Moore	2013-01-04
USCGC Raymond Evans (WPC-1110)	Raymond Evans (USCG)	2013-11-15
USCGC William Trump (WPC-1111)	William Trump	2013-01-04
USCGC Isaac Mayo (WPC-1112)	Isaac Mayo	2011-05-24
USCGC Richard Dixon (WPC-1113)	Richard Dixon (USCG)	2013-01-04	AFD no consensus
USCGC Heriberto Hernandez (WPC-1114)	Heriberto Hernandez	2015-10-16
USCGC Joseph Napier (WPC-1115)	Joseph Napier (USCG)	2013-01-04
USCGC Winslow W. Griesser (WPC-1116)	Winslow W. Griesser	2016-04-11
USCGC Donald Horsley (WPC-1117)	Donald Horsley
USCGC Joseph Tezanos (WPC-1118)	Joseph Tezanos	2014-09-13
USCGC Rollin A. Fritch (WPC-1119)	Rollin A. Fritch	2016-08-26
USCGC Lawrence O. Lawson (WPC-1120)	Lawrence O. Lawson	2016-10-20
USCGC John F. McCormick (WPC-1121)	John F. McCormick	2019-08-01
USCGC Bailey T. Barco (WPC-1122)	Bailey T. Barco	2017-02-09
USCGC Benjamin B. Dailey (WPC-1123)	Benjamin B. Dailey	2014-08-27
USCGC Oliver F. Berry (WPC-1124)	Oliver F. Berry	2017-06-28
USCGC Jacob Poroo (WPC-1125)	Jacob Poroo	2017-09-09	AFD - complicated
USCGC Joseph Gerczak (WPC-1126)	Joseph Gerczak
USCGC Richard Snyder (WPC-1127)	Richard T. Snyder
USCGC Nathan Bruckenthal (WPC-1128)	Nathan Bruckenthal	2008-07-04
USCGC Forrest Rednour (WPC-1129)	Forrest O. Rednour	2009-08-23
USCGC Robert Ward (WPC-1130)	Robert G. Ward
USCGC Terrell Horne (WPC-1131)	Terrell Horne	2014-08-06
USCGC Benjamin Bottoms (WPC-1132)	Benjamin Bottoms	2019-02-08
USCGC Joseph Doyle WPC-1133)	Joseph O. Doyle
USCGC William Hart (WPC-1134)	William C. Hart
USCGC Angela McShan (WPC-1135)	Angela McShan	2019-08-01
USCGC Daniel Tarr (WPC-1136)	Daniel Tarr
USCGC Edgar Culbertson WPC-1137)	Edgar Culbertson	2008-09-17
USCGC Harold Miller (WPC-1138)	Harold Miller (USCG)
USCGC Myrtle Hazard (WPC-1139)	Myrtle Hazard
USCGC Oliver Henry (WPC-1140)	Oliver Henry (USCG)
USCGC Charles Moulthrop (WPC-1141)	Charles Moulthrop
USCGC Robert Goldman (WPC-1142)	Robert Goldman (USCG)
USCGC Frederick Hatch (WPC-1143)	Frederick Hatch
USCGC Glenn Harris (WPC-1144)	Glenn Harris
USCGC Emlen Tunnell (WPC-1145)	Emlen Tunnell	2005-10-05
USCGC John Scheuerman (WPC-1146)	John Scheuerman
USCGC Clarence Sutphin (WPC-1147)	Clarence Sutphin
USCGC Pablo Valent (WPC-1148)	Pablo Valent	2019-04-01
USCGC Douglas Denman (WPC-1149)	Douglas Denman
USCGC William Chadwick (WPC-1150)	William Chadwick (USCG)
USCGC Warren Deyampert (WPC-1151)	Warren Deyampert
USCGC Maurice Jester (WPC-1152)	Maurice D. Jester	2016-07-14
USCGC John Patterson (WPC-1153)	John Patterson (USCG)	2017-09-15
USCGC William Sparling (WPC-1154)	William Sparling

-Geo Swan (talk) 12:57, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Are these the same ship?

This article includes links to USCGC John Patterson (WPC-1153) and John Patterson (USCG). Are these the same ship? If so, what should the article title be? Leschnei (talk) 13:59, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Leschnei, the article links to both the ships, and the ships' namesakes, each distinguished enlisted personnel of the Coast Guard, or one of its precursor services. Since there are already articles about other John Pattersons, the link in this article has to be to a disambiguated name. This is true for over a dozen of the distinguised namesake.

I see you removed the link for John Patterson (USCG). Since your removal was based on a simple misunderstanding, I reverted you. Most disambiguation pages say "* Joe Blow (USCG), the namesake of a Sentinel class cutter", not simply "* Joe Blow (USCG), see Sentinel class cutter". I fixed this.

Initially all the cutters were to be named after "heroes". But the second half of the list started to include enlisted personnel distinguished for remarkable performance -- the first guy who wasn't an actual hero completely disassembled an early helicopter, so it could be shipped, by air, to a remote region in Canada, where it could be reassembled in time for a successful search and rescue - a world first. Geo Swan (talk) 06:37, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Geo Swan, thanks for the explanation on the naming, and the interesting information! Leschnei (talk) 12:12, 20 November 2019 (UTC)