Talk:Sentimental ballad

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Why was the article renamed? The term "rock ballad" needs a special article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.28.32.97 (talk) 13:33, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

This article needs to include "Hey Jude" by the Beatles. 7 minutes long, 2-3 minutes of verse until it goes into the anthemic refrain for the rest of the song. The actual first power ballad ever and blueprint for songs like "I Wanna Know What Love Is" and "Don't Stop Believing" Munich hilton (talk) 03:52, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

History: 1980s, 1990s, 2000s need restructuring, because the time periods are messed up!

1980s is basically different from 1990s music, even though some 1990s artists already started in the second half of the 1980s. New country for instance is a typical 1990s music style. Some important examples of new country hits by songstresses, like Shania Twain, You're still the one, Faith Hill, This Kiss, and, LeAnn Rimes, How Do I Live, are all from 1998. 1990s music extended into 2000s music.Amand Keultjes (talk) 23:21, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

I have arrived here at first about the claim in the article that "Ballads are generally melodic enough to get the listener's attention". This is a controversial claim for me, who sees the type of AC ballads as completely devoid of melody. Nonetheless, I accept for a lot of people they are perceived as melodic and therefore the completely inaccurate statement from my point of view is acceptable.

It is also a controversial issue for me to be claiming that Shania Twain's You're still the one, Faith Hill's This Kiss and LeAnn Rimes' How Do I Live are country music whether new or otherwise. To myself that likes pure country, I see all three as pop music rather than country. Of course This Kiss and How Do I Live are not country but are in fact electronic dance music instead - the Almighty Mix and the Mr Mig Radio Edit respectively as opposed to the pop versions masquerading as country. Aspaa (talk) 23:12, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Un-sourced edits to Power Ballads

An unregistered user, under the @46.120.238.85: IP, has constantly been making copious un-sourced and un-discussed edits to the Power Ballads section. This particular user has been warned about and blocked for such activity in the past and it needs to cease. JoeyofScotia (talk) 12:46, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Power Ballad Definition

The article does not define power ballad. Cousin Ricky (talk) 17:42, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2023

Change 2010s segment to be more expansive on increasingly popular indie ballad musicians change the likes of Imagine Dragons and Ed Sheeran from being referred to as "Indie Musicians" MustardHairedVillain (talk) 00:16, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:20, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 15 September 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Unanimously opposed. (closed by non-admin page mover) — MaterialWorks 20:45, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

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Sentimental ballad → Ballad (music) – Its more often called power ballad or just ballad so a more common name for the article fits better. also, just glancing over the sources, none of them actually uses the term "sentimental ballad" --- FMSky (talk) 18:01, 15 September 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Edward-Woodrow • talk 20:37, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Oppose. The concept of a ballad in music is much broader than what is described in this article. Apart from its medieval and traditional and near-literary meanings (which are all also performed as songs), it can refer to some specific genres: Ballad#Beyond Europe. There are also individual singer-songwriter regional genres which are also categorized as ballads. The sentimental ballad is a separate genre unrelated to any of those. It is mostly commercial genre of popular music. Power ballad or rock ballad is a specific 70s rock-related sub-style of sentimental ballad. I disagree that the redirect Ballad (music) was changed to Sentimental ballad in 2018. Some articles referring to this still refer to the broad meaning of ballad (for e.g. Jazz#Blues referring to traditional genre) and such links have not been corrected. Also, check the claims made in Talk:Ballad (music) years ago about such title. I think that "Ballad (music)" or "Ballad in music" should be at least a page of disambiguation in this situation, and better to detail the subject within music sphere. Solidest (talk) 17:21, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:NATURALDISAMBIGUATION. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:38, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

The problem is more that the term "Sentimental ballad" doesnt seem to be widely used. Like stated, none of the sources use it --FMSky (talk) 21:39, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose. A ballad is music; I don't see how Ballad (music) makes sense as a disambiguation tag. 162 etc. (talk) 09:01, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. I agree the current title isn't a particularly good one and isn't the common name, but all ballads are music so the proposed name is even worse. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

"Goodbye to Love" in 1972

Actually the song Goodbye to love in 1972 would be the first power ballad 65.132.40.251 (talk) 02:06, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

It was likely the first to have a fuzz guitar effect. Binksternet (talk) 06:12, 5 January 2024 (UTC)