Talk:Senator Matheson

Requested move 11 September 2020

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The result of the move request was: moved -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:45, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Senator Matheson (disambiguation) → Senator Matheson – I do not believe that the fictional minor X-Files character can be primary over the two real people who have held this title. I would quash the existing redirect. BD2412 T 16:06, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. The X-Files character is certainly not primary. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:02, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. power~enwiki (π, ν) 01:38, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~ . There are zero articles on WP titled Senator Matheson and almost no one has been using the redirect.[1] ~~Just delete it and the newly-created dab page. They are both unnecessary.~~ Station1 (talk) 21:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Station1: This page is in conformance with MOS:TNDIS, which is a policy specifically endorsing title and name combinations. It is easily demonstrable that all three subjects on the page are commonly referred to in sources as "Senator Matheson" (see [2], [3], [4]). BD2412 T 22:27, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't deny that, and I'm not necessarily saying such pages should never exist, just that almost no one seems to be searching for any "Senator Matheson" in this case, and the search engine is better for those few who are. Station1 (talk) 23:03, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Is the search engine better? Here are the results. The search engine returns mostly incorrect hits - someone who ran for some kind of senate seat but lost (and was therefore never a "Senator Matheson"); someone who never even ran for any kind of senate seat, but had some connection to a senator who is mentioned in the article; someone who played for a sports team named "The Senators"; someone whose middle name is Matheson (and therefore would never be known as "Senator Matheson"). The disambiguation page contains only those results that actually should be found by someone searching for this title, and the only results that will need to be considered by someone correcting a link to this title. BD2412 T 23:53, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Also, searching for "Senator Matheson" with quotes around the title is even worse; it only returns a slew of results for the fictional character. This is inevitable, due to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography#Titles of people, which generally prohibits referring to article subjects by their title in running text. BD2412 T 00:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - Ok, you've convinced me (sort of). I still think these are not too useful, but they don't hurt anything and may be slightly helpful to someone someday. Station1 (talk) 00:28, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:10, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.