Talk:Semi-parliamentary system

More than one meaning?

Based on this Google Scholar search, it seems like semi-parliamentary has more than one meaning, with it also being applied to countries with a parliamentary system in which the executive is only accountable to the lower house of the legislature, despite the fact the upper house is also fully elected, with Australia and Japan housing its only extant examples. So, what should we do, maintain this outdated article or include this additional definition? Fuse809 (contribs · email · talk · uploads) 08:41, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

References

Large portion of article from Steffen Ganghof

IMHO, a large portion of this article, including a whole section, is dedicated to Steffen Ganghof’s views and work on the matter. This appears to have come through one user adding large amounts of content around 19 January 2021 and 19 April 2021.

If someone could find other sources or views on the matter, that would be good, particularly as it seems to redefine semi-parliamentary systems as, in effect, any bicameral system that happens to also have a strong upper house. Wouldn’t this also just be some parliamentary system, or constitutional monarchy depending on the executive! iamthinking2202 (please ping on reply if you would be so kind) 13:42, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Innacurate line in "'Washminster' system of Australia" section

I found something in such section that seems innacurate (or misleading at the very least). Marked in bold:

Australia is, in many respects, a unique hybrid with influences from the United States Constitution as well as from the traditions and conventions of the Westminster system and some indigenous features. Australia is exceptional because the government faces a fully elected upper house, the Senate, which must be willing to pass all its legislation. Although government is formed in the lower house, the House of Representatives, the support of the Senate is necessary in order to govern.

The Government is NOT formed in either house. The Prime Minister is appointed by the Governor-General of Australia, as well as their ministers following PM's suggestions. Once formed, the Gvnmt can be dismissed by, and only by, the Lower House (HoR) by the procedure of no-confidence vote, which the Senate can NOT hold. Thus, I propose changing such line. One possible model: "Although only the lower house, the House of Representatives, can hold a no-confidence vote against the government, in practice the support of the Senate is also necessary in order to govern". Aviracoc (talk) 00:09, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Special Elections in Israel

The article claim as many as 8 special elections (for PM only) took place while a Prime-Ministerial system was in place in Israel. This is wrong. Only 1 such election took place, in 2001. As understood by most Israelis, the main flaw of the system was that voters became much more likely to support smaller Lists (under Israel's Proportinal Representation system). 2A06:C701:4474:7F00:E8D3:5EBD:5ECA:B22F (talk) 09:18, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Merge proposal and article content

This present article Semi-parliamentary system comprises of two sections which each contain information on unique concepts. These concepts are not directly connected; except that certain academics have happened to coin the same term for both concepts. I propose that the section on "Steffen Ganghof's semi-parliamentarism" be merged with the article Bicameralism, as an expansion to the content on imperfect bicameralism for the reasons that I have detailed below.

The semi-parliamentary system devised by Maurice Duverger is a distinct form of government such as the presidential or parliamentary system; this system cannot be deemed to be a variation of the parliamentary system as it has several unique characteristics: (a) voters directly elect the prime minister and members of the legislature, (b) the prime minister and the working parliamentary majority are inseparable for the whole duration of the legislature: in case of a vote of no-confidence, forced resignation, or dissolution of the parliament, an early election would be held for both the legislature and the prime minister. Therefore, I believe that this unique topic should warrant a dedicated article.

The concept identified by Stefan Ganghof can be deemed to be a subtype of bicameralism under the conditions of a parliamentary system; and therefore, it is not a distinct form of government. This form of bicameralism functions in a manner similar to an independent legislative branch in a presidential system. The relationship between the two chambers of the legislature identified in this section is exhibited in systems used by several countries; it may be implemented in presidential and parliamentary systems, and thus it is not unique to any system of government. I propose that section(s) on the Bicameralism article are created to address the various types of bicameralism in more extensive detail. These sections should contain information on this identified type of bicameralism, and address the concept in an abstract manner which will allow this relationship between two chambers of the legislature to be understood more broadly. I further propose that within these section(s) information from the current section within this article Semi-parliamentary system be included to address the differences and unique features that are inherent in this type of bicameralism within the context of the parliamentary system, such as the power of the confidence chamber to dismiss the prime minister.

In line with the above, I also propose that that that we should further develop the present article Semi-parliamentary system to focus on this distinct form of government in a similar manner to Parliamentary system and Presidential system, and it should be included in Forms of government which currently is not the case.

SucculentMango (talk) 21:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)