Talk:Selena Gomez: My Mind & Me

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On 5 October 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Selena Gomez: My Mind and Me to Selena Gomez: My Mind & Me. The result of the discussion was moved.

Requested move 5 October 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. per discussion consensus. MOS:AMP now supports the move given that the primary sources for the film now also use the ampersand. This was convincing to several discussion participants, who agree that the sources show this is the proper name of the film. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 22:50, 12 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Selena Gomez: My Mind and Me → Selena Gomez: My Mind & Me – Place here your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate. If your reasoning includes search engine results, please prioritize searches limited to reliable sources (e.g. books, news, scholarly papers) over other web results. You don't need to add your signature at the end, as this template will do so automatically. Mireyaminna (talk) 18:54, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose: No rationale was given by the nominator. Variety used "and" less than a month ago in this article, and this will premiere at AFI Fest in less than month, whose website also uses "and", as shown here. I thus don't see clear reason to change it. The difference is trivial, and I have created a redirect so that people will find it either way. It's possible that both forms will be used by various sources even after its release. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose in the spirit of MOS:AMP; if we can't say for sure that the ampersand should be used, we should use "and" by default. No objection to using the ampersand if that is truly part of this proper noun. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 20:11, 5 October 2022 (UTC) Support per Nardog below. Pinging Necrothesp to see if they will reconsider too. Also pinging BarrelProof. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 13:58, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Nope. In general I think ampersands should always be expanded. Their use is no more than stylistic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:03, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  - That directly contradicts the guideline section you cited. (Erik, you didn't ping BarrelProof; see H:PINGFIX.) Nardog (talk) 13:22, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No rationale given and per MOS:AMP. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Apple TV+ now uses the ampersand (which it didn't when I checked a few days ago). Given it is the spelling used in the poster and trailer and on the streaming platform, it is the one likely going to be adopted when it gets seen and written about. Some sources have already made the switch: [1][2]. Nardog (talk) 13:27, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Both Apple TV and IMDB use the ampersand now. Dr vulpes ^{(💬 • 📝)} 08:57, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.