Talk:Sefer haYashar (midrash)

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'George Bush' is not a Jewish scholar of the 19th century, therefore I am changing this information.

Concerning Book of Jasher Some say it is a Compliation to Midrash and some say it is Original.The fact is Book of Jasher Is original there are many Proof like ok Timothy 3:8 Paul reffers two magician James and Jambres it is not written in Torah nor in Complete tanakh but written in New testament but Talmud was written around AD500.Book of Jasher mentions those names.So which Source did Paul use?It's obviously Book of Jasher Diago Tiago (talk) 04:17, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Removed Editorial Comment

In reference to Mormon acceptance of a particular version of the Book of Jasher, someone quoted Joseph Smith's statement in Times and Seasons that "the book of Jasher, which has not been disproved as a bad author, says he was cast into the fire of the Chaldeans." They imply that the uncertainty in his statement was "diffidence," or lack of confidence in his own ability.

A better view is that he was writing a newspaper article, not scripture, and not everyone in his audience accepted or believed in his prophetic calling. If you read the quote in context, you realize he was citing sources other than himself that a wider audience would accept as authoritative. (He was attempting to demonstrate that suffering could happen to righteous people as well as the wicked, therefore no one should say his or his church members' sufferings were a punishment from God.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.169.176.171 (talk) 21:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

LDS Acceptance

I added a new subsection and moved most all LDS references to it. I think this subsection can be expanded.Rockford1963 (talk) 20:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Removed Acceptance by Latter-day Saints

I removed the entire unsourced, incorrect, and speculative section titled Acceptance by Latter-day Saints. The one referenced quote from Joseph Smith saying that the text has “not been disproved” acknowledges his awareness of the text and nothing more.

What do Mormons think of Book of Jasher? The official Bible Dictionary (LDS Church) defines the biblical book of Jasher as follows:

"Jasher or Jashar. Upright. (Josh. 10:13; 2 Sam. 1:18.) An early collection of Jewish national songs and stories of deeds of valor, put together about the time of Solomon. Various other collections of the book of Jasher are available today and may be of some worth, but do not appear to be the one spoken of in the Bible [emphasis added]."

In response to the question, "I recently acquired a copy of a text called The Book of Jasher, which is claimed to be the book of missing scripture referred to in the Bible. Can you tell me if it is authentic?" Edward J. Brandt, college curriculum writer, for the Church Educational System, wrote in the June 1981 issue of the Ensign wrote:

". . . there is ample evidence to show that the popular 1840/1877 Book of Jasher is not the lost scriptural book mentioned in the Old Testament. Consequently, I think one would not want to use it as a substitute for or even an authoritative supplement to the scriptures. The standard works of the Church still stand as the only authorized scripture today [emphasis added] ."

There is no evidence of the text of Sefer Hayashar being used in a General Conference (LDS Church) of the Church in at least the last 40 years (if ever). As interesting as the text may be, it has no support from current or past leaders of the Church. Mormons believe in many unique things, but in this they do not. Matthew R. Lee 05:35, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Matthew. It looks like you've removed some OR, however, there is apparently some connection between this book and the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible cf. The Book of Jasher L M DuQuette "... Although I removed the fantasies and falsehoods from it, [eg,] that it is the Sefer ha-Yashar mentioned in Scripture, there are still those ... day Saints, is of particular interest to Mormon scholars, who find similarities within the text to certain portions of the Joseph Smith translation" In ictu oculi (talk) 10:12, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

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