Talk:Secure Computing Corporation

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This article is a blatent ad. This article is cleary biased towards the company in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miltonmonkey (talk • contribs) 01:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

• No, it's not blatant (note the spelling for next time). Whether positive or negative, encyclopedia entries for companies are important in that they describe mergers of products and product lines - that is devilishly difficult information to find. Wikipedia is one of the few accessible sources of such information, and it's valuable regardless of sounding fanboy or not. Cryptosmith (Rick Smith) 20:46, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I think covering some of the controversy concerning SmartFilter is warranted. For example: sethf.com/anticensorware/smartfilter/gotalist.php 68.238.51.102 22:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

• I have to ask - why toss this in instead of writing in something in the main entry? I haven't studied censorware much myself, and Seth Finkelstein's discussion of SmartFilter noted in the link above is interesting. I don't know if many or most of his observations are exclusive to SmartFilter, but the discussion is worth linking to. Cryptosmith (Rick Smith) 04:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Many of the subsections were written by a fanboy or someone from the company. IT sounds a lot like marketing, and could use a NPOV scrub. I would do it were I more directly familiar with all of the individual components. Tolstoy143 - "Quos vult perdere dementat" 11:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I think that covering the controversy and opposing point of view would give it more of a neutral stance. Tubularbells1993 (talk) 14:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Filtering Systems

The second sentence of the current version of this article ("The company has developed filtering systems used by governments such as Iran and Saudi Arabia that block their citizens from accessing information on the Internet.") seems extremely biased. Yes, Secure Computing may make web filtering systems used by countries often considered repressive, but how do these filter systems differ from the filte I personally do not mind some mention of the controversy being in the article - but every last reference in this article currently is about the censorship controversy. I just think it needs to be toned down. Cerlyn (talk) 21:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

The reason why every last reference is to the censorship issue is because I wrote that section, and could care less about writing the rest of the article; that's the way Wikipedia works. We all take on the work we want. I welcome someone else to reference the rest of this article, initially written as a PR piece, and still resembling one when I began editing it. Per WP:LEAD:

The lead serves both as an introduction to the article and as a concise overview. It should establish the context, explain why the subject is interesting or notable, and summarize the most important points—including notable controversies.

That's exactly what I did. If you or anyone else would like to cite the rest of the article with independent, reputable sources, you are more than welcome. But we never pair down well-written, multi-sourced sections to conform to a poorly-written, unsourced article. --David Shankbone 22:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

(Not-so)Smart Filter

I really think that the SmartFilter tool is by no means useful. Speaking from experience, it is extremely difficult to do research on my school laptop with it in place. I really think that the "Evils of SmartFilter" should be looked into and covered in detail here. I also feel it is worth noting that the article in question is blocked by the program. Tubularbells1993 (talk) 00:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Redirect

We need a redirect, or an article relocation. There's no way to actually get here without Searching for it, and whenever I come here, I always end up at Computer security first. I propose we rename this article, to the effect of "Secure Computing (Company)." We should then put a link to this article at the top of Computer security. Tubularbells1993 (talk) 20:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Added a disambiguation page for 'secure computing' - one link to this page, one to 'computer security.'

Aklyatne (talk) 07:01, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

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