Talk:Secret Empire (1974 comic)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Freedom4U talk 21:47, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that in 1974, Captain America watched Nixon commit suicide? Source: Captain America and the Struggle of the Superhero: Critical Essays; Polygon
  • ALT1: ... that Steve Englehart wrote the Captain America comic book storyline "Secret Empire" as an allegory for the Watergate scandal? Source: WaPo
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lepas testudinata

Created by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:34, 8 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Secret Empire (1974 comic); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Not a review, but the original hook is ineligible because of WP:DYKFICTION. Bremps... 19:49, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
  • Not necessarily -- DYKFICTION's applicability to secondary analysis is complex. Not sure if this one is before or after the fuzzy line, haven't looked closely enough, but if the subject of the comic is not Watergate (as the other hook and article itself imply) it's likely to pass. Vaticidalprophet 04:59, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
    • Such subtext requires in-text attribution from the critics. As it stands the hook violates WP:DYKHOOKCITE (it's not a definitive fact, even if it's probably the intended subtext). I'm also not very keen about a hook that's basically one giant spoiler. Boldly striking ALT0. DigitalIceAge (talk) 21:38, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
• This is a review:
  • Article is new enough (created on the 8th, nominated on the same day)
  • Article is long enough (9908 characters of readable prose)
  • "Violation unlikely" on Earwig
  • Article is presentable
  • "This all led to that Secret Empire storyline, which was an allegory on the Watergate scandal and the way it played out in the press.” from the WaPo source; hook is cited
  • Hook (ALT1) is interesting enough
  • One fair use image, at an appropriate resolution
  • QPQ has been done
  • No other issues
• Pass Bremps... 15:21, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Just Another Cringy Username (talk · contribs) 05:10, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

I will review this article. This will be my first GA review.

Question: Morgan695 On the article's talk page, I see that this is a new article, less than a month old, and it's already been assessed as C Class. When was this assessment was done and what have you done since then to raise the quality of the article to the point where you believe it merits GA status? Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 08:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

@Just Another Cringy Username: I ranked it at a C when I created the article, mostly just as a placeholder. I haven't significantly adjusted the article since then, but I do believe that it nevertheless meets GA criteria in its current state. Morgan695 (talk) 22:06, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Since this is my first GA review, I have sought the assistance of review mentor Hawkeye7, who has answered my primary concern: namely, the sourcing. Newsarama, 13th Dimension, and AIPT Comics sound more like fanzines than RS sufficient to meet GA criteria. There's also extensive use of primary sources, i.e. material created by Marvel itself. Hawkeye has advised me that there is nothing wrong with primary sources so long as they are used appropriately. In this case, Marvel is used as a source for publication information, and is an authoritative source for this. AIPT, Newsrama, Polygon and Scify are journalistic news site and not fan ones. Finally, since the 13th Dimension article was written by Steve Englehart (author of the comic), it is also acceptable.

Reviewing is ongoing, but things are looking good! Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 02:39, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

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