Talk:Seattle Coffee Works/GA1
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Reviewer: TrademarkedTWOrantula (talk · contribs) 02:02, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Here I am again. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 02:02, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for reviewing! Looking forward to collaborating. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry I was away for a while; had to do some Christmas stuff and whatnot. I'll get started with the review soon. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 07:00, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- No worries! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:49, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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1. Well-written: | ||
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct. | Article flows smoothly. No obvious typos or technical information. Grammar is correct. | |
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. | Lead section is of adequate length. Layout is correct. Barely any hits in the WTW list. Fiction and list incorporation policies do not apply. | |
2. Verifiable with no original research: | ||
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline. | Article has a properly formatted reference section. | |
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose). | Article is well-referenced. Most sentences are cited by The Oregonian and The Seattle Times, both of which I presume to be reliable sources. | |
2c. it contains no original research. | Spotchecking proves that this article doesn't contain original research. | |
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism. | ||
3. Broad in its coverage: | ||
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic. | The article talks about SCW's interior, exterior, history, and reception, which is information adequate for an article about a business or restaurant. Although it doesn't talk about the restaurant's menu, all they serve there is coffee, and it would be pointless to list every brand of coffee they have there per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. | |
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style). | The article stays focused. | |
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. | Article does not try to promote or criticize the restaurant. Reviews are taken into account that proves this restaurant is well liked. | |
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. | No edit wars have occurred as of me reviewing this article. | |
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio: | ||
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content. | Logo has non-free rationale. The rest of the images are taken by Another Believer, and he has licensed these images under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license. | |
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions. | Everything except the coffee cup gives visual context for the reader. All images have appropriate captions. | |
7. Overall assessment. | Merry Christmas, Another Believer! |
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[edit]- I feel as though there are too many images here. You could remove the branded coffee cup and use the multi-image template to group images together.
- Why "circa 2022"?
- @TrademarkedTWOrantula: Because this source (published June 2022) says "recently closed". If you feel that's good enough to confirm the restaurant closed in 2022, I'm happy to remove "circa". ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:53, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- As noted in the GA table, a lot of the quotes found in the article can be removed or paraphrased. I'll note these changes in a separate section.
- There shouldn't be any citations in the lead section per WP:CITELEAD. The citations in that section don't really cite anything controversial.
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History
[edit]- "began as a pop-up shop in an old T-shirt store in downtown Seattle. Inexperienced and new to the Seattle coffee scene, the owners wanted to create a space where people could try espresso from roasters all over the city... A short four years later, they weren't serving everyone else's coffee; they were roasting their own" -> started as a pop-up shop where the owners provided espressos sourced throughout the area. Around four years later, they began to produce their own coffee.
- SCW has a no-tip policy. - Not sure if this is elaborated on.
- "After voluntarily boosting wages to $19 an hour in 2017, up from $12, Simsch says workers – who now earn at least $22 an hour after annual wage increases – are generally happier, turnover is nil, and productivity has shot through the roof." -> ...that Simsch thought workers became "generally happier" after the wage was raised, noting that "turnover is nil".
- Perhaps the COVID-19 link could be replaced with this?
- "While Simsch had to let 20 staffers go, he transferred many of his remaining 15 workers to the company's new monthly coffee-subscription service and e-commerce coffee sales." - Wait... e-commerce coffee sales? Coffee-subscription? Also change to: Simsch released 20 employees, moving the remaining 15 to a new coffee-subscription service.
- Should you link chief executive officer?
- the owner of Victrola Coffee Roasters
- In 2007, the Daily Journal of Commerce said, "Seattle Coffee Works has opened at 111 Pike Street near Pike Place Market. The cafe combines a museum of Seattle coffee and a tasting center for locally roasted coffees. It has brews from Caffe D'Arte, Caffe Umbria and Vashon Coffee Co. The signature drink is a three shots of espresso served on a silver platter." -> In 2007, the Daily Journal of Commerce described SCW's selection of locally roasted coffees, including brands from Caffe D'Arte, Caffe Umbria, and Vashon Coffee Co.
- Where'd the flagship store relocate to?
Reception
[edit]- I think we can safely assume that SCW is considered the best in not only Seattle, or the state, but the entire nation. If you want to, you can add a topic sentence at the top of this section.
- "On a busy summer day, its proximity to the popular Pike Place Market can make Seattle Coffee Works feel overwhelmingly touristy." -> that since the coffee shop is close the Pike Place Market, SCW could feel "overwhelmingly touristy"
- She recommended, "Ignore the out-of-towners and sidle over to the Slow Bar, where you can prop yourself on a stool and sample coffees from around the world, prepared in a variety of ways (pressed, siphoned, etc.)." -> and recommended the Slow Bar.
- Why is "tasting (cupping)" quoted?
- You could link hot chocolate; it's a beverage, and we are talking about a restaurant that serves beverages.
- Starbucks is far away enough to be linked twice.
- ...This unpretentious coffeehouse Downtown is a longstanding Seattle mainstay, serving up a variety of blended brews and other buzzy drinks." -> and commented that SCW serves "blended brews" and "buzzy drinks".
Spotchecking
[edit]- I will select 12 references at random.
- #1
- Seattle Coffee Works (SCW) is a third-wave coffee company based in Seattle, in the U.S. state of Washington. - Doesn't really confirm anything. All it describes is the restaurant's features.
- Moved citation from lead to article body re: Obama Blend. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:20, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Seattle Coffee Works (SCW) is a third-wave coffee company based in Seattle, in the U.S. state of Washington. - Doesn't really confirm anything. All it describes is the restaurant's features.
- #7
- Lonely Planet has noted its woody interior.
- #8
- The Ballard location has been described as "airy". - Really subtle, but it's there.
- #11
- Established near Seattle's Pike Place Market in 2006, -
I'd recommend moving this citation at the end of "Market" instead of "2006"; the source only mentions that SCW is "just steps away from Pike Place Market."- I would prefer to keep the inline citation after the punctuation. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:16, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Established near Seattle's Pike Place Market in 2006, -
- #24
- "Seattle Coffee Works has opened at 111 Pike Street near Pike Place Market. The cafe combines a museum of Seattle coffee and a tasting center for locally roasted coffees. It has brews from Caffe D'Arte, Caffe Umbria, and Vashon Coffee Co. The signature drink is a three shots of espresso served on a silver platter." - This is literally the entire text.
- #35
- The taping also allowed customers to sample the Colombia Cup of Excellence for free. - Pretty unbelievable.
- #42
- and Cascade Coffee Works.
- #51
- A third location opened at Broadway and Pike on Capitol Hill in 2017. -
Also, shouldn't this be in Capitol Hill?
- A third location opened at Broadway and Pike on Capitol Hill in 2017. -
- #55 Cascade Coffee Works opened in South Lake Union in 2017.
- #61
- The Not for Tourists Guide to Seattle has said, "To these guys, making coffee is not work." -
Cite error: 2015 guide points to 2016 one, and the 2016 guide points to the 2017 one.Whoops. This isn't a cite error.
- The Not for Tourists Guide to Seattle has said, "To these guys, making coffee is not work." -
- #73
- The business was included in the Daily Hive's 2019 list of 10 "Seattle coffee shops aficionados can't afford to miss",
- #78
- In Moon Baseball Road Trips (2021), Timothy Malcolm said "the service [at the Pine Street location] is so on point that you'll get your cup within three minutes". - Not sure where you got the Pine Street location part from
Other stuff
[edit]- Should you add List of coffeehouse chains to the see also section?
@TrademarkedTWOrantula: I think I'm caught up with addressing your concerns, but please let me know if any remain, thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- Not done yet. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 17:58, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- No prob!, just letting you know I'm caught up. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:00, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Another Believer Looks like I'm done here. Please notify me when you have addressed these changes. Thanks, TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 06:00, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- @TrademarkedTWOrantula I think I've addressed all of your concerns, but please let me know if any remain. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:21, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
- Alright... passing this article now. Merry Christmas and a happy new year! TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 16:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.