Talk:Screamworks: Love in Theory and Practice

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Review: March 17, 2018. (Reviewed version).

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Article title

Under WP:COMMONNAME, this article should simply be titled "Screamworks: Love in Theory and Practice," as that is how the album is referred to in the majority of the sources. Note of "Chapters 1–13" could be mentioned still be in the intro sentence. Similar to The Shape of Punk to Come and Hellbilly Deluxe 2, both of which have extended titles. Fezmar9 (talk) 22:22, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What about just "Screamworks"? After that, it's really subtitle from there.--F-22 Raptör^{Aces High♠} 02:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As much as I personally agree that everything after Screamworks is just a subtitle, a quick search engine test (as suggested at WP:COMMONNAME) proves otherwise. A search for "Screamworks" -wikipedia turns up 1,060,000 results, "Screamworks: Love in Theory and Practice" -wikipedia turns up 5,620,000 results and "Screamworks: Love in Theory and Practice, Chapters 1–13" -wikipedia turns up 210 results. Removing "wikipedia" from the search was also suggested at WP:COMMONNAME. This little test suggests that "Screamworks: Love in Theory and Practice" is generally how the album is referred to. Fezmar9 (talk) 02:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If the search "Screamworks: Love in Theory and Practice" is how the majority generally callis it, then I'll have no problem just calling that either. Though I do agree, there is no need to get specific with the chapters in the article's title.--F-22 Raptör^{Aces High♠} 03:11, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another option comes to mind, what is your opinion for calling it just "Love in Theory and Practice"? Reason being, it came up with even more results [1]--F-22 Raptör^{Aces High♠} 03:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would be against that. Looking through the hits for just "Love in Theory and Practice," all of them include Screamworks in the title. A search of "Love in Theory and Practice" "HIM" -screamworks -wikipedia, or hits that refer to this HIM album without using "Screamworks" only turns up 53,800 results – most of which fail WP:RS. Fezmar9 (talk) 22:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stub?

It's not really a stub anymore because there is quite a bit of information on the album, so should the stub notice be removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beautiful so ur (talk • contribs) 21:05, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kat Von D?

OK, so, Valo has never clearly stated as to who his "muse" was for the album, but there are a lot of signs pointing to Kat Von D. She and Valo have been friends for years, they've been linked to each other multiple times by the Finnish media, and in her book Go Big or Go Home, Von D details a relationship that has numerous correlations with Valo and Screamworks. In it she describes a man from another country, who sings in a band and writes songs, whom she's known for years. She also talks about how he recorded an album full of songs about her, with messages that only she could understand, just like Screamworks according to Valo. She also talks about one song having her name in the chorus and how he sings about her bringing him "peace within". On Screamworks we have "Katherine Wheel", which features the line "With you I'm at peace with the war within". She also talks about drawing contests they would have together while an hourglass was running. In the Metal Hammer fanpack for Tears on Tape, Valo talks about drawing contests he and Von D would have with an hourglass. He even has an hourglass tattoo done by Von D. She also released a video of her singing a song, with the caption "One of the first songs I ever wrote for that album I recorded a while back [and never released] about a boy in Finland." So yeah, there are a lot more of these connections I could go through, but my question is, should this be mentioned in the article? Neither party has admitted to or denied anything, so some would argue that there is no "solid proof", but maybe just have the article say: "The album was largely inspired by a relationship of Valo's with an undisclosed partner (thought to be Kat Von D)." I don't know, thoughts anyone?--SilverBullitt (talk) 11:14, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Screamworks: Love in Theory and Practice/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Iazyges (talk · contribs) 17:17, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Will start soon. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 17:17, 9 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The Diamond Cut remix of "Scared to Death" was also released as a single from the album. Needs a citation.

Prose Suggestions

Screamworks received generally positive reviews from critics, with praise being given to Valo's vocals and the songwriting, while the new "lighter" tone received mixed opinions. Nevertheless, Screamworks charted in eleven countries, including the top ten in Finland, Germany, Austria and Switzerland, eventually being certified gold in the band's home country. suggest you change this to Screamworks received generally positive reviews from critics. Valo's vocals and songwriting received praise, although the "lighter" tone of the album received mixed opinions. Screamworks charted in eleven countries, including the top ten in Finland, Germany, Austria and Switzerland, eventually being certified gold in the band's home country.
@SilverBullitt: That is all my suggestions. I'll pass the article as soon as you deal with the missing citation. -- Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 23:02, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Iazyges: Had the wrong song on there anyway, but now it's fixed with a citation.--SilverBullitt (talk) 06:00, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]