Talk:Scrapyard Detectives

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Delete This is a free comic book being distributed to US schools and libraries by a non-profit organization to support the goals of the non-profit. It's not a commercial publication, so it's not clear if it should be categorized as a comic book in the traditional sense. I don't think it's notable as a comic book. Special:Contributions/Kal5000 obviously created this article to help publicize Smiles for Diversity and Scrapyard Detectives -- including offering the cover image. I'd say this should be deleted on the grounds of blatant advertising and WP:COI by the non-profit organization. --SueHay 22:47, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This really is a comic book. I've seen it--it's not an advertising piece for Smiles for Diversity, but just a good comic book, published by a non-profit. I'm removing the notable tags, and replacing them with sourcing tags. It doesn't matter what the wikipedia author's intent is (which is what you referenced) as long as they follow wikipedia's guidelines. This isn't written as an advertisement, and so I think what it needs is sources. Fredsmith2 23:06, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But without sources there is no way to prove WP:N. The fact that you've seen it only proves it exists, although that itself isn't enough for WP:V. So this entry doesn't folow Wikipedia's guidelines - in fact it currently doesn't met any other than general formatting and layout. The fact it started life as an advert needn't be a big issue if we can get WP:RS to prove WP:N and WP:V but as it stands the notability tags are right and should stay until those issues are addressed. (Emperor 23:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]

My visual confirmation of the book was not meant to be used as a reference on wikipedia. It's simply to say that it's not an advertising tract, like many publications of nonprofits. This is an independent comic book, similar to many other independent comic books on wikipedia. I still think that the notability tag should be changed to sourcing tags. This is notable, it's just not sourced yet. Fredsmith2 11:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That tags have to stay. It may exist but the question is: Is it notable? Has it been discussed by reliable sources? The fact that other indie comics have entries here doesn't mean much as if they don't measure up to similar standards then they will also find themselves up for deletion. (Emperor 12:52, 14 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]

I found some Google hits for Salt Lake City Tribune articles, but the links wouldn't load -- perhaps someone can try again later:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=+site:www.sltrib.com+%22Scrapyard+Detectives‎%22

--A. B. ^(talk) 13:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then add them in. (Emperor 13:47, 14 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Actually, it's one local article about the comic book writer apparently written in late April and revamped in early May. It also covers Smiles for Diversity and Scrapyard Detectives because that's how the fellow got started. http://www.sltrib.com/holladay/ci_5756851. This Wikipedia article was added in March. Can anyone provide a reference dated before this Wikipedia article was created? Just curious. --SueHay 15:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added multiple references, expanded article, and removed notability tag. Fredsmith2 23:11, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]