Talk:Scott Weinger

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The Aladdin Special Edition DVD is the source for Weinger's comment that he attempted the singing role of Aladdin, only to give up (and quickly) after watching the producers attempt to stifle their laughter. RadioKirk 06:26, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Later Life title?

I don't think that Later Life is appropriate use in this article considering that section starts describing his life from the mid-ninteties, he would have been maybe twenty. I would suggest changing that to something more appropriate.

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BLP violations

I notice that a dynamic IP address has added uncited personal-life claims in violation of WP:BLP. If that continues, an admin will be asked to protect this article so that only registered editors may edit it. --Tenebrae (talk) 05:50, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2020

Date and place of Birth missing

For some reason Aladdin's voice actor is missing his date and place of birth. Including his age too. Olivier Baghdadi (talk) 18:52, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

If you have a reliable-source journalistic or reference citation, please provide it. Note that Wikipedia disallows the wikia IMDB to be used as a reference citation. Also, fan sites, personal blogs, Wikipedia mirror sites and other non-RS sites may not be used.--Tenebrae (talk) 18:57, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Feel free to re-open with sources – Thjarkur (talk) 19:36, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2020

Is there by any chance if some could remove his occupation "voice actor" from his occupation section first, then in the first sentance of the article abd in the "short description" section in the article above. Because the term "Actor" already covers both his live action and voice over work, even though his filmography states that he only had 25 voice credits, voice acting is s substence of acting. 2600:1000:B04D:F4A1:DCB0:6F5F:C579:EE92 (talk) 21:16, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. Where does it say that there needs to be 70+ roles to be listed as a voice actor? Many people that satisfy WP:N probably haven't been in 70 roles yet. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 04:22, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2020

Is there by any chance if some could remove his occupation "voice actor" from his occupation section first, then in the first sentance of the article and in the "short description" section in the article above. Because the term "Actor" already covers both his live action and voice over work. 2600:1000:B046:C4E7:4C73:14DC:CD42:76FC (talk) 13:32, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. A quick check indicates that a major portion of the credits listed are for voice parts. It at least seems reasonable to indicate that. Any removal like that should probably be discussed first. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:52, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I understand. But I think it's probably best for it to be removed fir now, because voice acting is a subset of acting. It's actually the sane thing. 2600:1000:B043:1AB5:C0B9:B08E:439C:DF50 (talk) 18:05, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I was asked to comment about this at User_talk:Ianmacm#Article. Some people will say that the distinction between "actor" and "voice actor" is redundant because being an actor already means that the person is an actor. Scott Weinger has done a considerable amount of voice work, and it depends to some extent on an actor's career. Mel Blanc is known entirely for his voice work. I supported removal at John Cleese because he is known primarily for his on screen roles. This needs to be looked at on a case by case basis.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:29, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I do agree that Winger did a considerable amount of voice work for Disney. But he's probably mostly known for his on-camera acting work then he is for his voice over work, because that's what he mostly does now today. 2600:1000:B058:3CDA:7DF2:C6B3:6D41:7032 (talk) 16:31, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2020

Look, I don't wanna keep wasting everyone's time on this. But can't "voice actor" just please be removed just this once please. Removal in his occupation section, then in the first sentance of the article and in the "short description" section in the article above. Because he's mostly kmown for his on-camera acting work then voice over, he does it occasionally but not all the time. He hasn't had a voice role in television as of 2020 this year, except for Kingdom Heart III, latley he has been doing some writing and producing for television. Again, voice acting is a subset of acting. Again, I apologize for requesting this again. 2600:1000:B058:6AC5:28AB:F1B:6165:7B7B (talk) 03:30, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

I personally agree that it is reduntant to say "voice actor", but others appear to have disagreed above. – Thjarkur (talk) 18:08, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, I'm glad we have someone that agrees. I wasn't trying to start an argument, I was just explaning that it isn't that big of a deal. He doesn't do voice over all the time, he does it occasionally. He's mostly known for his on-cemera acting work than voice over, I've been trying really hard to have it removed, because like insaud before, voice acting is a subset of acting. 2600:1000:B03D:7B8F:103C:FB89:75B9:D8B (talk) 18:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Stop making this request; it's getting disruptive. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 23:04, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

We've all had our two cents' worth in the previous thread. As I've said, this needs to be looked at on a case by case basis. It may be worth saying "voice actor" if an actor has a significant track record in this area, but there are no hard and fast rules.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:43, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I understand that it should be discussed first, I apologize for making this request so many times before. First off, yes, we know he does voice work for Disney. But he’s mostly known for his on-camera acting work than his voice over work, so is it ok if we agree to have it removed just this once. Because I promise I won’t make this request again. 2600:1000:B02D:E80D:F4CD:4429:D8AC:B4FE (talk) 15:59, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Voice actor

I moved on removing the voice actor before seeing the items listed above... where it seems there is mostly agreement that one can remove voice actor. It's not a separate profession from acting, we don't say on, say, Al Pacino's page that he is an actor and stage actor, even though he has done notable stage acting. Voice is a notable part of Weinger's career, but not so notable that it overwhelms all other factors (he has over 100 episodes of live-action sitcoms), and it is clear in the first sentence that voice performances are included in his notable work. This isn't like, say, June Foray, whose notability was almost solely for voice work (and so we list her as "voice actor" but not "actor" in opening sentence, even though she did some live-action roles.) Basically, we should never say "actor and voice actor"; if they were notable for both voice roles and non-voice, then they're an actor; if only for voice, then we can specify voice actor. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

See the objections to this above. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 15:40, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, Deacon, I've seen the above. Your objection was that it should be discussed... here I've (re)opened the discussion, so that objection is over. ianmacm| says it should be looked at one a case by case basis, and here is a case. Thjarkur is saying that listing voice actor is redundant. So so far we have three editors myself, the IP, and Thjarkur - saying that it should be "actor" and absolutely frigging nobody saying that in this particular case it should be both. So unless you have some particular case that we should be demeaning voice acting by saying it's not part of acting, it's time to actually let the edits happen. --Nat Gertler (talk) 15:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Actually, Gertler does make a good point here. Voice “IS” a notable part of his career, plus the term “voice acting” is a subset of “acting”. 2600:1000:B03F:D3B7:4035:CF5C:866E:4D29 (talk) 15:51, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Note, this is the same IP that has been badgering this page and many, many individual users' talk pages, continuing to ask for this change, in violation of WP:FORUMSHOPPING, until he apparently finally found someone amenable. I still don't agree. Someone can be notable for acting and voice acting separately – H. Jon Benjamin comes to mind. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure how one can be notable for acting and voice acting separately, unless one presumes that voice acting is not acting, which is hard to find a basis for. One can be notable for voice acting and stage acting, perhaps, as they are separate disciplines... but both fall under the category of "acting". And you continue to address as "someone" case (or a specific other case) instead of addressing this particular case. You can continue to repeatedly shoot down the IP's input, but then you're still face with multiple editors who, facing this specific article, that voice acting should not be seen as not included as part of acting in the opening descriptor. --Nat Gertler (talk) 16:16, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Just to clear things up for Deacon. I’m not “badgering” for the occupation to be removed, I’m just following the Wikipedia policy. According to its policy, again, “voice acting” is a subset of “acting”. Deacon is just trying to make me look bad. I wasn’t violating anything, I was only following the policy. Just ignore those negative stuff me said about me. 2600:1000:B04C:B1B5:809E:13B1:5D2A:3AAA (talk) 16:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

While voice acting is a subset of acting, the subset page says nothing specifically about acting, nor is it a Wikipedia policy page. --Nat Gertler (talk) 17:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Oops, sorry my mistake! I thought that was the same article of its policy. My apologies. 2600:1000:B04C:6D07:34D4:F7F0:EACA:6343 (talk) 18:35, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Before we go any further with this, here’s another example. First off, yes, we all know he “IS” the voice of Aladdin. But he still doesn’t do much voice over work throughout his career, again he’s mostly best known for his on-camera acting work. For example, the website Behind the Voice Actors.com says he only has 18 voice credits he did. Another example, for notable voice actors such as Frank Welker, Jim Cummings and Dee Bradley Baker all have over 1,000 voice credits on Behind the Voice Actors.com, they are the ones that are all notable for doing voice over work, not much of them had any live action acting work. As for Weinger who only has 18 credits on Behind the Voice Actors.com, he’s best known for his live action acting work than his voice over work. 2600:1000:B01E:F937:14F6:EB65:B0C:A90A (talk) 19:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)