Talk:Sceptrum et Manus Iustitiae
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[edit]The source obsolete constellations: sceptrum et manus iustitiae sucx actually. It says:
- Created in 1679 by...
and
- It was composed of stars mainly taken from Lacerta, the lizard.
Nope! Lacerta (constellation) was introduced by Firmamentum Sobiescianum, Johannes Hevelius, in 1690. The text must be considered inaccurate, and cannot be relied upon, until this apparent time reversal is explained. Rursus 08:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Speculation: Stellio and Scettro looks very much alike when the characters are blurred. It could be a misreading such as Museida/Muscida (for Omicron Ursae Majoris). In the West Andromeda to Lacerta area, there's a ring of stars that actually constitute a natural constellation – let's call it the "Lacerta Ring". The name Scettro is Italian for Sceptrum, the name struck in the minds of the astronomers of that time, but since Stellio (lizard) is a natural association, this natural constellation was reinterpreted according to the taste and preferences of the individual astronomers. Rursus 12:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Origin of the Latin name
[edit]As far as I can make out, the Latin name Sceptrum et Manus Iustitiae was invented by Julius Staal in his 1988 book The New Patterns in the Sky (a book in which he invented quite a number of things, BTW) and is not the original name. Royer simply called it Sceptrum in his catalogue and chart. http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/honoresfriderici.html#sceptrum If anyone can find a reference in which the name Sceptrum et Manus Iustitiae was used prior to Staal, please post it here! 2.102.166.23 (talk) 10:48, 4 September 2024 (UTC)