Talk:Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites (song)

Official Remixes?

I'm not sure if it qualifies as an 'official remix' (I'm new to electronic music), but the Bear Cavalry acoustic version (found on YouTube) was actually used by Skrillex in a tour video. There may be other examples of this kind 'acknowledged cover'. What merits the 'official' title? Someone making money off of it? -has no account (sorry for earlier edits, should've read before using talk page.)

Second sample

Isn't there a melodized singing sample (or whatever you call it) in addition to that of Ms. Nedrow? If anyone can identify it, I'm sure it'd be fit for inclusion per the sample references on other song pages throughout the wiki. 8ty3hree (talk) 23:00, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Single?

I couldn't find any proof that this song was released as a single, so I've changed the infobox and wording accordingly. Skyshiftertalk 00:21, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Skyshifter (talk · contribs) 20:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Chchcheckit (talk · contribs) 19:50, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Alright sure. FFTL fan. // Chchcheckit (talk) 19:50, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Well-written

• Though the liner notes don't actually say a lot (as in, it states "All songs produced, recorded and mixed by Skrillex at the Honeycomb, Los Angeles, CA) it might be good to add the studio where the song was made to the infobox
  • I feel like this would be important for the EP article, but not much for this one, especially if just for the infobox.
    • Per Template:Infobox song#studio it is recommended to include the studio. I'll add this. // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:08, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
• The prose and MOS for all sections is pretty good
• Y Remove unneccesary tracklisting section; all information for the song is in the infobox
  • Done
• Y brostep is mentioned in the infobox, but doesn't have a source in the body. You could use this as a source
  • Done

Accuracy/Verifiability/Spotchecks

• Most sources are fine
• [4] Twitter from Skrillex; is there a better source for SMANS being the first song written fro the EP?
  • There is none, I think.
    • I'll allow the tweet on the basis of WP:TWITTER since it's a small detail and it comes from skrillex himself // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:08, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
• Y Right before the drop, a vocal sample of Rachael Nedrow, also known as "speedstackinggirl", shouting "Yes, oh my gosh!", is used. You should use the Allmusic citation at the end of this, so the quoting isn't WP:OR.
  • Added
• Y In August 2010, when "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" was still unreleased, 12th Planet played it in one of his shows.[11] Original research; find a reliable source or remove.
  • Removed
• Y In 2019, a study published in Acta Tropica suggested that playing "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" could make Aedes aegypti mosquitoes, which transmit the dengue fever, attack hosts later and less often as well as mate "far less often". The song was chosen because it mixes very high and very low frequencies.[39][40] Verified.
• Y Earwig copyvio detector: passed, highest % is 13.

Broad

• Covers all relevant bases, honestly.
• Y Are there any more reviews discussing the song besides Resident Advisor? Otherwise might be better to remove it just to focus on its legacy.
  • Other reviews discussing the song are in "Composition" instead. Removed.

NPOV

• is good; discusses impact regardless of quality due to lack of reviews of song

Stability

• Y Passed; hasn't been edited since August 27, it's given

Illustrations/Images

• Song sample: uses less than 10% of original: (4:03 = 243 seconds = 24.3 max.) Fair use rationale is appropriate.
• No other images or illustration provided.

Sorry I've been slow. Any comments? // Chchcheckit (talk) 13:35, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

@Skyshifter Chchcheckit (talk) 13:35, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

@Chchcheckit: done! Skyshiftertalk 01:05, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@Skyshifter We're almost done. Last suggestion would be adding citation for "dubstep", and adding comment regarding its chart performance to the lead. // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:08, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Also, as a random observation, 100 gecs cited the song as an inspiration here. Not that you have to include this; it's just there ig ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ // Chchcheckit (talk) 14:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

@Chchcheckit: Added citation for dubstep. The lead already includes "The song charted in multiple countries", which I believe is enough. Skyshiftertalk 18:12, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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• ... that "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" is a mosquito repellent?

• Source: "Dubstep artist Skrillex could protect against mosquito bites". BBC. 1 April 2019. Archived from the original on 18 July 2023. Retrieved 1 April 2019.

• ALT1: ... that "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" protects against dengue fever? Source: "Dubstep artist Skrillex could protect against mosquito bites". BBC. 1 April 2019. Archived from the original on 18 July 2023. Retrieved 1 April 2019.
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Get the Hell Out
• Comment: My attempts at quirky hooks.

Improved to Good Article status by Skyshifter (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.

Skyshiftertalk 14:13, 9 October 2024 (UTC).

• Might I suggest ALT2:
  • ... that mosquitoes are scared by Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites? Di (they-them) (talk) 02:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
    • @Di (they-them): this is a very good one that I support! Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

@Skyshifter: Please provide a QPQ as the nomination is liable to be closed without further warning if one isn't provided during or immediately after the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: I thought one could be provided in a week. In that case, I will provide it in a day maximum. Skyshiftertalk 03:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

@Skyshifter: The rules recently changed per a WT:DYK discussion as part of an anti-backlog campaign and to prevent QPQ-less nominations from languishing without a QPQ indefinitely. Now, a QPQ must be given when or shortly after the nomination is created, and a nomination without a QPQ may be closed without warning if none is provided immediately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: done! Skyshiftertalk 01:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

I want to ask that if/when this hook is approved, it be set for October 31 to go with the Halloween set (Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Halloween set). Di (they-them) (talk) 03:23, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

@Di (they-them): I support this! Skyshiftertalk 01:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

• Since Halloween has passed without this running, this still needs a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
• I'll take this review. Expect it to be done within 24 hours. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 ^{[please make some noise]} 23:17, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Huge preference for ALT2 - thanks @Di :) The hook is mentioned in the article and cited to RS (incl. the study itself). Sources are reliable enough for the topic area and the GAN level; spotchecked ref 1, 7, 11, 16, and 26, managing to see no problems. However, Ref 5 does not support the description of the song's key and tempo, though this isn't really a dealbreaker.

This is good to go @Skyshifter, but I suggest finding another citation for the key/tempo. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 ^{[please make some noise]} 23:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC) Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 ^{[please make some noise]} 23:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

@PSA: thanks! Key and tempo is in the Beatport source. Dazed is ref 6. Skyshiftertalk 00:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

@Skyshifter and PSA: The BBC source seems like pretty crappy science journalism; it's making MEDRS claims like "you can avoid mosquito bites by playing Skrillex" that aren't really what the study says. Could it just be sourced to the study instead? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

theleekycauldron: yes, it definitely should go. Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 ^{[please make some noise]} 08:47, 8 November 2024 (UTC)