Talk:Scarab (artifact)

Rewrite

This article has apparently been translated from a non-English source and desperately needs a rewrite. It should be merged with Scaraboid seal as well. —Whynowagain (talk) 16:34, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

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Believe me, I had no idea I didn't know the English language. If it needs a rewrite, then rewrite it. But I am an "American", and I speak pretty-much only standard English, or accordinging to u, some "unstandard" English.
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This article has been long overdue, (dung beetle doesn't cut it), as the bottom of the Scarabs, ....1–reveal a story.... or the entire scarab is either a 2–grave good or a 3–gift, or a 4–memorial of some type, or just a 5–piece of jewellery or 6–important gift--(a Reward, or Honorary Gift). (Comments by author)...from theSonoranDesert, ArizonaUSA...--Mmcannis (talk) 11:05, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

(New Comments)--This article has matured somewhat, but is still only a START article. (see also god: Khepri...) (and I just added the Numbering in my previous Reply to original Comment Editor:.. That individual is the one who moved the Article Name to Scarab (artifact), from Scarab artifact.
(And I see I forgot to add the scarab to the List of Egyptian hieroglyphs by common name: M-Z-(also my article)... (Notes from Article creator)...(from SonoranDesert, ArizonaUSA)... Mmcannis (talk) 15:50, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't mean to be insulting, but I am an American too, and I also thought this had been poorly translated from another language. You may speak "only standard English", but you aren't writing it. There are statements in the article that are rambling and difficult to follow (ex.: "As amulets, and a flat surface on the bottom (as a similar artifact of a paperweight), it became a surface with other utilitarian purposes."), and I honestly cannot understand what you are trying to say here on the talk page (ex.: "This article has been long overdue, (dung beetle doesn't cut it), as the bottom of the Scarabs"). Ellipses and em-dashes are not the "standard English" method of starting or ending a sentence. You aren't being clear, and two for two readers have called you on it. The article needs a rewrite from someone who understands the subject. 71.200.89.119 (talk) 12:56, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Grammar and clarity of sentences need work! The information itself is interesting and organised and the writing should be worthy of the subject. If only the sentences were taken care of, so that they express the facts in a clear and lively manner! A few examples: "a type of these" ( a number mismatch; you wouldn't say "these type") is evidently meant to refer to "commemorative scarabs:" why not say "a type of commemorative scarab..." -- grammatically correct and clear as the original sentence is not. The original sends us hunting backward for "a type of what?" and interrupts the flow of meaning. "Modeled upon the Scarabaeidae family dung beetle" is unclear and awkward; for starters, Scarabaeidae is a noun modifying a noun and there are two perfectly good adjectives, but something like "The amulets were modeled upon dung beetles of the family Scarabaeidae(.)" would be more clear than a clutter of adjectives. This could then be followed by a brief description of the living Scarab beetle's lifestyle in a separate sentence. This in itself could use some expansion and clarification. Not all dung beetles roll dung into a ball to use as a larder for themselves and a brood chamber for their offspring -- from my biologist's point of view, it would be good to try to verify that the "roller" type of dung beetle was the basis for the scarab amulets and other depictions before making a blanket statement. The life history account is a bit muddled in itself. Separating it into its own sentence or two would make it easier to organise a clear subject, verb,and predicate. These are just samples -- there is much more that could be done to make the writing worthy of the subject. Towson University Online Writing Support is a good place to go when meaning gets muddled. (Repeating Garrison Keillor's "Remember... the pronoun is not your friend" as a mantra once a page or so helps too.)

Again, I found the subject immensely interesting and entertaining, and I'd love to see the writing do it justice. Equisetum (talk) 19:53, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Request for More Detailed Source - Funerary Scarabs

I have been trying to verify a part of this article. Under the section "Funerary Scarabs" in the last paragraph, it cites John Ward's book The Sacred Beetle: A Popular Treatise on Egyptian Scarabs in Art and History. Unfortunately, I cannot find this information anywhere in that book. Can anyone verify this? I've been told that the person who wrote this paragraph has been absent since November.

EriktheFriendlyOperaGhost (talk) 17:25, 14 May 2022 (UTC)EriktheFriendlyOperaGhost

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When and where from are the earliest scarabs?

Zarnivop (talk) 16:41, 7 February 2024 (UTC)