Talk:Savin' Me

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Release Date

I came to find this article searching for the single's release date. It's not mentioned here. Just thought someone might want to add it.

Number system?

I think the number system in the song is arbitrary. I have many reasons to believe this.

If the numbers are 'seconds left to live', how does the last woman he saves have so many dropping so suddenly to so few?
Perhaps this could justify number one, but why are some peoples' number of seconds going up?

If the assumption that they count in seconds is correct, then the pregnant woman in the video has approximately 10 months to live, while the baby has a year and a half. Also, the life expectancies of the other people around him are all around that same length of numbers, which means that either they're all going to die in a relatively short time (less than 10 years, which is extremely improbable given the age of them), or the assumption that it's the number of seconds is incorrect.

The only part of the number system that's reasonably understandable to me at this point is the decimal point; the two digits afterwards are *always* capped off at 30, which makes me want to think that the system isn't entirely arbitrary. But perhaps they did that to certain parts of it to throw people off who catch things like this, eh? I want to say they're milliseconds, but I'm probably wrong.

Any thoughts?

well, considering that when the woman nearly got crushed her number jumped downward, perhaps the decisions we make change the number? like eating a salad rather then a burger would add 100K?? its a thought. Pellaken 23:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Death Note

This video bears a resemblance to the manga Death Note:

If the holder of the Death Note made a deal with their shinigami (death god), they could "exchange eyes" with the Death God and see someone's name (completing the other ingredient needed to write names in a death note), as well as the time they had left to live.
If the holder of the Death Note gives the Death Note to someone else, they lose all their power and indeed, all memory of the Death Note, its effects, etc. The people don't come back to life, but the person doesn't remember killing them. Which is, to the extent of losing this death-related ability in order to pass it on, similar to what happened in the video.
In addition: holders of the Death Note who took the deal cannot see the names or lifespans of other holders of the Death Note. BUT, if you were no longer a holder of the Death Note, your lifespan would be visible to all those who DID have a Death Note and could look at you through the shinigami's eyes. In the video, the man saved her life, and thus gave her the ability to see other peoples' lives, while losing it himself; this is noticed because he once again has a lifespan counter above his head, yet he himself could not see one for himself in the reflective glass.

Countdown

The counters above each person's head in this video is simply the number of seconds they have left to live.

For example;

-The pregnant woman: 21,243,543.00 = over 40 years

-Her unborn baby: 36,873,267.00 = a little over 70 years

Apparently, the concept is that this number can change depending on your choices and actions. In a few instances the counter is actually going up. One example is the man on a bicycle. The main character's counter also seems to be going up at the end of the video.

Great concept. Well done.

Dude, it is the amount of minutes, rather than seconds, the people have to live. If it is seconds, then the unborn baby will not live to see his second birthday. Arbiteroftruth 04:21, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

By my calculation, mother dies in childbirth if it's seconds. Baby lives until something like 2-3 years old. FxChiP 07:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Those aren't the figures for the pregnant woman and her baby. Woman: 27,986,567.00 Baby: can't see, seems to start 42 (42,XXX,XXX.00), which is close to 79 years. Oh, and the timer (I could call it a death clock) appears to go minutes.hundreths of a second. So 36,873,267.38 is 36,873,267 minutes and 38 hundreths of a second. HOWEVER, if they have less than one minute left, it changes to seconds and hundreths of a second. Also, the timers can go up as well as down, and can jump (not counting down per second).

The baby's count is 42,865,565.30 or so. FxChiP 07:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It should also be noted that the second interpretation is thwarted by the mother and her baby. For a split second, when the numbers after the decimal point runs out, the ones place definitely changes. It is also thwarted by the woman on the bench, who, while it does increase, when the digits after the decimal point go above thirty, the digit in the ones place definitely increases. FxChiP 08:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Correction

The note at the end of the "Savin' Me" Wikpedia article is incorrect.

"Note - The protagonist walks away in the last shot, and it appears he has only about 21 years to live, despite being a man of about 25. Similarly, youngish people that he passes have a relatively short time to live, although the first set of digits may not be years.

It is interesting to note that that almost everyone at the end of the video, protagonist included, has their death time at 21.245.541.00. It is not yet certain if this was symbolic or if the repeated number was simply a time saver for the video editors."

The main character's counter reads 17,666,576.00 seconds which is equivalent to over 33 years. Each person at the end of the video does not have 21.245.541.00 over their head. They are each different, including the main character's (which is actually going up as he walks away).

Protagonist

I've searched unsuccessfully online for the name of the actor who portrays the main character in the music video. If anyone knows his name, perhaps it should be included in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.0.214 (talk) 04:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The guy at the beginning looks EXACTLY like Dave Navarro

Oemenia (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alt.metal?

The song is too light and so not dark to be considered an alt.metal song. I can't see any heaviness on it. So I've changed the genre, because it's closer to alt-rock than to alt-metal.

If anyone disagrees and considers the song alt.metal-heavy, please let's discuss.

Robfbms (talk) 00:51, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Humorous addition

I don't know how much this is editorialization, so I hope my removal is appreciated. The line "pulls him back just in the nick(elback) of time" in the Music Video description is gold, though. I'm not sure how to link to specific versions of pages, but it's the July 12, 2021 edit of the page by an anonymous user. —Frosty Beep 17:24, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]