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Should we consider The Long War Journal a WP:RS?

Is it an RS or a NN blog site? A recent article in it claimed to have tentatively identified additional former Guantanamo captives on the most recent wanted list.

"The Long War Journal has identified 8 men on the most-wanted list who have the same name as Saudis who were repatriated from Guantánamo. This matching process is not perfect, as some of the men listed have common Muslim and tribal names. Translations of the men's names are not consistent either, as there are multiple ways to translate their Arabic names into English."

It tentatively identified three former captives:

ISN 114	Yousuf Mohammed Mubarak Al Jubairi Al Shahri
ISN 185	Turki Mashouy Zayed Assiri
ISN 187	Murtada Ali Saeed Mukram,

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 23:40, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So, what are these guys?

A Saudi press release named Mohammed Abdel-Rahman al-Rashed and Sultan Radi al-Utaibi as two men from the list killed in a shootout in Yemen. But what name is that on the list? So, what are these guys? Geo Swan (talk) 01:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Ministry: 3 Saudi militants killed in blast abroad". Washington Post. 2010-01-18. Archived from the original on 2010-01-18.
"Blast kills 3 terrorists". Arab News. 2010-01-18. Archived from the original on 2010-01-18.

rough work

According to Intelwire^[1]:

rank	name	notes
1	Saleh Abdullah Saleh Qaraawi
2	Abdullah Asiri
3	Salah Suleiman Hamad
4	Fahed Samir Alqaiqai Ruwaili [???]
5	Mustafa Abdul Elah Mohamed Jubairi
6	Naif Mohammad Said al-Qahtani Alkodri
7	Ali Abdul Aziz Ali (Saudi most wanted number 7)
8	Ibrahim Hassan Asiri
9	Ibrahim Mohammed Salman Rabic
10	Ahmed Abdullah Saleh Al-Zahrani Alkhozmri
11	Badr Saud Owaid Awfi Jihad
12	Mcaoui Zayed Al Asiri
13	Ali Jabir Jubran Alfifi
14	Hassan loss Bdah Al-Qahtani Saad
15	Hassan Ibrahim Hamad Alcavan
16	Hussein Mohamed Abdou
17	Khalid Ibrahim Ahmed Hyacinth Alasiri
18	Ryan Hamidi Mohammad Zaidi
19	Khaled Saleh Ali Al Zrabh Acommti
20	Hamad Hussein Nasser Hussein
21	Ahmed Saleh Ali Alchihp
22	Abdul Rahman Abdullah Mohamed Albhimh Jihad
23	Saleh Naiv Almakhlvi Day
24	Ibrahim Mohammed Abdullah Almzian
25	Saeed Ali Jabir Kthim
26	Tleihan Amuallbi-Mutairi
27	Abdulla Salem Al-Qahtani Dhim Alaliani
28	Radi Smelel Aldllake Sultan Al-Otaibi
29	Abdul Rahman Abdullah
30	Adel Fulayyih Salem al-Jaafari
31	Ahmed Mohamed Ibrahim Tuwaijri
32	Khaled Selim Owaid Luhaybi
33	Bader Nasser Al-Mohammed Kinani
34	Abdulrahman Abdullah Abdulrahman Al-Dosari
35	Abdul-Aziz Abdullah Baheej Albhigi
36	Khaled Al-Otaibi Galab Alrougui
37	Raed Abdullah Salem Al [???]
38	Mohammed Abdul Rahman Sulaiman Al-Rashed
39	Ibrahim Suleiman Hamad
40	Mohammed Saad Saeed Siyam
41	Hamid Fayez Ghneim [???]
42	Mohammad Hilal Al-Otaibi Almqati
43	Ahmed Mohamed Ibrahim Tuwaijri
44	Fahd Saleh Suleiman Aljtili
45	Fawaz Al-Otaibi Humaidi Hajd Alhabrdi
46	Fahad Saad Mohamed Ajlan
47	Faisal Jassim Mohammed Khalidi
48	Fauzan Aouiz Ateeq Zhimi
49	Attia Karim Fahmi Al-Zahrani
50	Abdullah Nasser Sulaiman Riai
51	Mohammed Yusuf Abdallah Altkroni Jamil
52	Yousef Mohammad Mubarak Jubairi
53	Walid Abdullah bin Ibrahim Brgsh [?]
54	Ahmed Ali Atallah Alfarhod
55	Waleed Ali Alasiri
56	Abdullah Muhammad Abdullah Ayed
57	Abdul Karim Abdullah Ibrahim Salloum
58	Abdullah Osman Abdulrahman Aldbeji
59	Mohammed Ateeq Awaed Awfi
60	Abdullah Faraj Mohammed Hammoud Juweir
61	Murtaza Ali Said Mqurm [???]
62	Fahd Mohammed Ali Aldjaitn
63	Mashaal Mohamed Rashid Alcdokhi
64	Majed Abdullah Mohammed Al-Majed
65	Ahmed Ali Barakat Al Zahrani traditional concept
66	Mohamed Ali Mohamed [???]
67	Mohammed Abdullah Hassan Abu Khair
68	Muhammad Qasim Mehdi Reemy
69	Osman Ahmed Osman Amira Al-Ghamdi
70	Adnan Mohammed Ali Ahmed
71	Abdullah Azzam Rizieq Alslake born
72	Othman Bin Sulaiman Dikhil Sweden
73	Abdul Rahman Abdullah Al-Obaid
74	Abdullah Ibrahim Abdulmohsen Sharekh
75	Atiq Faraj Al_husnani
76	Osama Hammoud Grman monthly
77	Obaid Mubarak Obaid Alagafil
78	Naif Mohammad Said al-Qahtani Alkodri
79	Nasser Abdulkarim Abdullah Louhichi
80	Ali Abdul Aziz Ali (Saudi most wanted number 80) [???]
81	[???] Almqati
82	Bdah Mqahs Bdah Qahtani
83	Ahmed Mohamed Kotaim Da'di Alhzli
84	Amir Ali Saud Shanbari
85	Aqeel Aqeel Omeish Aqili-Mutairi
86	Mohammed Thamer [???]
87	Osama Abdullah Ali Dmjan
88	Basil Jerbuai Ali Al-Qahtani [???]

more rough work

From the Saudi Embassy, Washington.^[2]

foobar

References

^ "Saudi Arabia's 85 Most Wanted". 2009-02-05. Retrieved 2009-6-18. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)
^ "Interior Ministry issues list of extremists wanted for extradition". Saudi Embassy, Washington. 2009-02-03. Archived from the original on 2009-10-23.
^ ^a ^b Cite error: The named reference AsharqAlawsat2009-02-06 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Cite error: The named reference ArmiesOfLiberation2009-02-20 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

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Could the person who formatted this page please fix it. The last half is a formatting nightmare. 131.202.156.75 (talk) 16:30, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done dont know who broke it long long ago, but i found the problem and fixed it. --DBig Xray 21:11, 13 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

it is counterpolicy to remove redlinks to topics that could plausibly be standalone articles

it is counterpolicy to remove redlinks to topics that could plausibly be standalone articles.

Someone has removed some redlinks to topics that could plausibly be standalone articles. I restored them. Geo Swan (talk) 01:00, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Geo Swan, I think these people would not have their own articles. Maybe I am wrong. But they seem to be notable just because of one event.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 11:11, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First, BLP1E only applies to some of these individuals. Second, if you re-read BLP1E, it is equivocal. It doesn't say being a BLP1E is not an absolute bar to notability. It is conditional, a judgement call.

Buzz Aldrin - is he a BLP1E? Wiseguys re-used the arguments those who cite BLP1E, on Aldrin. (1) He was only known for landing on the moon; (2) his books, film and television appearances only happened because of the one event - landing on the moon. BLP1E explicitly says an individual can measure up to our notability criteria if their role in an event is central, well documented etc.

I suggest that the time for you to raise a BLP1E concern would be if (1) someone turned the redlink into an article; and (2) after a good look at that article you concluded the available references you found in your own web search (in compliance with WP:BEFORE) that article fell short of our inclusion criteria.

Consider Sultan Radi al-Utaibi, the first of those four men. How closely did you research him, prior to labelling him a BLP1E? He was (1) named on a list of most-wanted suspects; determined to have lead a plot to assassinate Prince Muhammed Bin Naif Bin Abdul Aziz; and (3) killed in a shootout. Why don't you consider these three events? Geo Swan (talk) 15:04, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Saudi wanted militants killed in Yemen". Al Sawah. 2009-09-27. Archived from the original on 2009-09-30. Sources told al-Hayat that other Saudi militants called their families and asked them to inform the family of al-Jolaiti that he along with a companion were killed.

"Saudi Wanted Suspects Killed in Yemen Fighting". Yemen Post. 2009-09-27. Archived from the original on 2009-10-02. Othman Al-Ghamedi and Yousuf Al-Shahri, who are also on the most wanted list, called their families asking them to inform the Al-Jatili's family of the death of their fellow, according to the paper.

"Ministry: 3 Saudi militants killed in blast abroad". Washington Post. 2010-01-18. Archived from the original on 2010-01-18.

"Blast kills 3 terrorists". Arab News. 2010-01-18. Archived from the original on 2010-01-18.

"3 Saudis involved in attempt on prince life". Saudi Gazette. 2010-01-19. Archived from the original on 2012-03-02. Retrieved 2010-01-19. Three Saudis, who were killed last year in an explosion, were involved in the failed assassination attempt on the life of Prince Muhammed Bin Naif Bin Abdul Aziz, the Assistant Minister of Interior for Security Affairs, it has been revealed by a security source.

"Saudi Arabia: 3 Militants Died in September Blast, Officials Say". The New York Times. 2010-01-19. p. A8. The official Saudi Press Agency quoted the ministry as saying that DNA tests identified the three men as Mohammed Abdel-Rahman al-Rashed, 28; Sultan Radi al-Utaibi, 26; and Fahd Jutayli, 28, who was released from Guantánamo in 2007.

@SharabSalam:

rough work 23:43, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

names from Examining Saudi Arabia’s 85 Most Wanted List

[Intelwire2009-02-05-1] "Saudi Arabia's 85 Most Wanted". 2009-02-05. Retrieved 2009-6-18. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

[SaudiEmbassy2009-02-03-2] "Interior Ministry issues list of extremists wanted for extradition". Saudi Embassy, Washington. 2009-02-03. Archived from the original on 2009-10-23.

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[ArmiesOfLiberation2009-02-20-4] Cite error: The named reference ArmiesOfLiberation2009-02-20 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

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