Talk:Satanic Warmaster

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Mirgilus Siculorum interview

If anyone wants to question the authenticity of this interview, keep in mind that Mirgilus Siculorum, the site that published it, is a real record label that put out records by Funebre [1] and Watain,[2] according to Rockdetector. Another interview on the site was cited by Blabbermouth.72.95.242.209 (talk) 09:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name of artist

The name "Satanic Tyrant Werwolf" has an 'e' missing from Werewolf, as seen on his official MySpace page. Please do not try to correct the spelling. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.183.85.169 (talk) 04:47, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion...

His music sounds like he is a sensitive person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.115.194.141 (talk) 14:49, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He did write a song about holding on to your dreams & features cute little wolverines on album covers. So maybe? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JanderVK (talk • contribs) 19:43, 16 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Accusations of lyrical content

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Nazism is a serious criminal offense in many parts of Europe, so please refrain from adding such implications. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.76.42.68 (talk) 08:13, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nowhere, anywhere, do any of the sources suggest that Satanic Warmaster could be engaging in criminal activity. One of the highly notable aspects of this band is its supposed association with NSBM, and it is important to mention this.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 13:44, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Did you check the sources already presented? NSBM labels have always been rejected by the band. Please try to be neutral and respwctful towards the artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.76.42.68 (talk) 17:42, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also due to your obviously strong christian belief, do you consider yourself unbiased towards a band that declares Satanism as it's foundation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.76.42.68 (talk) 18:03, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have no vested interest in the band either way. I think what you meant by the question is whether or not I am intentionally viewing the band in a negative light because it is Satanist, and the answer is absolutely no. I certainly don't care if it's Nazi or not, and I know that many Satanic bands are not Nazi. While I don't do so frequently, I sometimes listen to artists such as Bathory and Celtic Frost because their music is very good and their lyrics very well constructed within their respective worldviews. As for NSBM and neutrality, I don't see anywhere in my recent edits that suggested that Satanic Warmaster identifies as NSBM. All that I'm trying to include right now is a few sentences on how the band is accused of having Nazi themes, but that the band denies this. This actually works very well to introduce the next sentence cluster on the lyrical timeline released by the band, as that gives a more detailed and in depth response by the band to the allegations. But that timeline only makes sense if the allegations are mentioned. Bathory, as far as I know, has never released such a timeline, but, as far as I know, Bathory has never been accused of using Nazi themes.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 23:35, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is a BLP. The Title of the controversy section messes up the balance of the article. The section is poorly sourced.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 06:53, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I will look into balancing the article further with facts about the artist himself and remove his opinions that do not involve his music.

Bathory faced similar controversy with songs like "Under the Runes". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.76.42.68 (talk) 08:14, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And here's how you do that. You change the sections title. Do you red Finnish? This article is not about Bathory. They should have never brought it up but they were defending that their religion has nothing to do with this. They should not have had to do this.-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 18:28, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Musicmight.com???

How exactly can musicmight and the "biographies" (which are completely inaccurate and superficial) be used as a source in this case, especially since the book by the author on Black Metal was released in September 2001 and the first Satanic Warmaster album was released only in November 2001?!?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.250.150.165 (talk) 18:59, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Garry Sharpe-Young also worked on the website. The site isn't an exact copy of his works. I agree that those biographies are often superficial, and I'm sure they probably contain inaccuracies. If there is a better source with the same information, by all means, use that.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 20:32, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They are being used as a source for the bands lineup and member names. What's the issue?-Serialjoepsycho- (talk) 05:18, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]