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The drummer on the Charcoal album was Russ Horvath. (source: inside liner notes of the CD, photo labeled "4/24/96 at the metro")
Sue Roth was the bassist for a while after Rachel Switzky left the band. She was playing with them when they played at Subculture in Grand Rapids, MI with Jimmy Eat World and No Knife. This was sometime after the release of The Glass Intact, but I think it was before Distant was released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.250.236.42 (talk) 03:57, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not exactly sure of the year but it has to be 1992 or earlier. It's a tape the band was selling at a concert in Boise, Idaho where they opened for Stryper. The tape is white with blue printing directly on the plastic with SARGE and the song names, same contents on both sides of the tape. No other They were a long hair metal band, sounded awful live but the tape is great. Definitely NOT the Sarge in this article. Bizzybody (talk) 07:53, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]