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Suggestion: Improve Introduction, Characterization

In order to improve the introduction by being more general and concise, I suggest that the following sentence:

   As one of the Seven churches of Asia, it was addressed by the author John of the Book of
   Revelation in the Holy Bible in terms which seem to imply that its population was 
   notoriously soft and fainthearted.

be moved to one of the sections, e.g. "History" as a third paragraph. As well, the point of the sentence would be strengthened by mentioning that the writings of ancient Greece also describe them such after its conquest. However, to be fair to the city, it seems to have had a quite powerful army as capitol of Lydia in the sixth century and until Lydia's fall to the Persians in 547 BC (see Lydian Dynasties).

I haven't edited because I know little about the subject, but if no one else wants to ... Jimmy Hers (talk) 23:13, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sardis: history: first mention of name

The name 'Sardis' seems to occur in two fragments of Sappho, sc. Fr. 96 (from P. Berol. 9722, fol. 5) (line 1) and Fr. 98(a) (from P. Haun 301) (line 11). Both of these must be earlier than Aeschylus's The Persians if they are genuinely by Sappho, whose floruit is c. 600 B.C.E. I have used the Loeb Greek Lyric I: Sappho and Alcaeus, tr. David A. Campbell (Harvard UP, 1982, 1990), rather than the Teubner edition for this information: the citations in question are on pages 120-121 and 122-123. Perhaps someone with better computer skills than mine might propose to enter this. R.dulgarian (talk) 00:17, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many sources claim Sardis is where the stone, sardius, gets it's name or vice versa, which is brownish red or blood red in appearance. Pliny the elder mentions this in his history, and said: "XXXI. On the contrary, sard, which shares a part of its name with sardonyx, is extremely useful for this purpose. The stone itself is a common one and was first discovered at Sardis, but the most valuable specimens are found near Babylon. When certain quarries are being opened up the stones come to light adhering to the rock like heart-wood. This mineral is said to be now exhausted in Persia, " another stone - not related, is called a sardonyx, because it is banded in color - and named partly off the red color.

Sardius stones are also mentioned in bibles in revelation and Exodus 39:10, where sardius is the translation for the hebrew word odem, which is a color and stone, related to adam, which means red or red dye. Sardius stones are Carnelian, a variant of Chalcedony.

Some also think the word is related to the Persian word سرد sered, meaning yellowish red, but Persians conquered the city under Cyrus the great. It's unknown to me if the Persians adopted the name from the lydians, or the lydians from the persians, but if pliny was right about sardis claimed to have first discovered it, the exchange of names would have likely taken place. Note that sered is a color in persian.

The color is what seems to unite all the sources, whether used in different types of stones, or dyes, or as a color. (common in other names too - like emerald or ruby when used as colors). Also it should be noted sardis was a famous dyeing center.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170101063545/http://www.masseiana.org/pliny.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FCC8:A552:8200:B5DA:9B70:13AF:36DA (talk) 09:18, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Greek monuments

The anti-Greek bias of this article is disgusting. Whoever posted the pictures of the Greek Gymnasium and the Greek Temple of Artemis forgot to mention that they are Greek both in the photo title and in the article. Any comments on that? Or do you need a history lesson? I'm waiting for a discussion, especially from those american anglo-saxons who are allergic to anything Greek. All the Minor Asia articles are anti-Greek biased. But the truth is one. Minor Asia is the other half of Greece and the capital of Greece is Constantinople, and the national church of the Greeks is Aghia Sophia in Constantinople which is the greatest and most glorious church in the world. Whether some people like it or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ate Nike (talk • contribs) 17:30, 26 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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No mention about time of construction of each monument

I believe the history section is lacking behind in regards to mentioning at least some dates about the buildings of the city. Overall I can kinda sense some anti Greek sentiment like with many other asia minor articles but you can at least put the basics. 62.74.4.33 (talk) 17:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]