Talk:Sarbadars

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The following statement is inaccurate and historiclaly unfounded:

Historically, the Sarbadars have been considered a robber-state; they have been accused of being a group of religious fanatics who terrorized their neighbors, with little regard for legitimate rule.

The Sarbedaran movement was the archetype of a social struggle rooted in the futuwwat tradition. This 12th century religious and socio political movement originated in Baashtin close to Sabzevar in Khorasan and led to the gradual liberation of Iran from the tyranny of Mongol rule. The Sarbedaran movement was the synthesis of revolutionary Sufism and Shi'ism. Shi'ism opposed the tyranny of the caliph and thus as an anti caliphate movement attracted the masses. Sufism appealed to the intellectuals since it opposed the Shari'a as it was used by the Islamic jurists to support the caliphate.

'An Islamic Utopian' - A Political Biography of Ali Shariati by Ali Rahnema I.B. Tauris

Inappropriate title

Hi. :)

The title of the article is, at the time of this writing, "Sarbedars". This is an inappropriate title. And its translation is wrong.

Calling this article "Sarbedars" is like calling the on article on the Mafia, "Mafiosos". The proper title is "Sarbedārān"; this should be treated as a definite group noun, not as a plural Persian word. Please note that while the Persian language has several pluralizing suffixes, nobody alternates them when referring to this group.

Second, the translation of "Sarbedaran" is "those whose heads are on the gallows". It unambiguously refers to a group of people, not a group of heads. A group of heads on the gallows is "سرهای بالای دار", in which case the word that is made plural is "سر" (head).

All that I said is plain Persian language knowledge. One can understand them by knowing that language. (And this isn't just the Persian language that is so. Those learn English know that nobody would wish someone peace and well-being with the expression "rest in peace"! That's reserved for the dead. 😉) 5.53.45.222 (talk) 06:54, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]