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Descendants of the Medes

An IP editor removed linguistic material supported by citation, to propose descendance of Sarab's population from the Medes and the Persians. While the Altaic Turks probably carried out a so-called elite invasion: a relatively small number of people with higher cultural and military abilities imposing a foreign culture and language (Turkish) on the pre-existing population, (Brega, Agnese, et al. "Study of 15 protein polymorphisms in a sample of the Turkish population." Human biology (1998): 715-728.; Arnaiz‐Villena, A., E. Gomez‐Casado, and J. Martinez‐Laso. "Population genetic relationships between Mediterranean populations determined by HLA allele distribution and a historic perspective." Tissue antigens 60.2 (2002): 111-121; and Arnaiz-Villena A, Karin M, Bendikuze N et al. "HLA alleles and haplotypes in the Turkish population: relatedness to Kurds, Armenians and other Mediterraneas". Tissue Antigens 57 (2001): 308-317.) I have found no genetic studies of the Sarabi. The more general study found "It is hypothesized that if there were a specific [genetic] contribution related with the language replacement then there would be a higher genetic contribution from Central Asia to Turkic speaking Turkey and Azerbaijan than that of Indo-European speaking Armenia, Kartvelian speaking Georgia, Afro-Asiatic (Arabic) speaking Syria, or the Caucasian speaking Northern Caucasus. Hence, admixture estimates reflecting the Turkic language related Central Asian contributions must be higher in Turkey and Azerbaijan and jointly they should appear as an island in a territory of non-Turkic speaking populations. The Central Asian contribution to the other Turkic speaking population, Azerbaijan, was 34%. However, for all non-Turkic speaking populations, the Central Asian contribution was higher than for that of Turkey and the Central Asian contribution of 13% in Turkey was unexpectedly low." Berkman, Ceren Caner, and İnci Togan. "The Asian contribution to the Turkish population with respect to the Balkans: Y-chromosome perspective." Discrete applied mathematics 157.10 (2009): 2341-2348. This would tend to indicate that the Sarabi population is less likely to preserve genetic material from the Medes and Persians than areas further south, north and west. Regardless, it should not be at issue in this article. --Bejnar (talk) 22:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]