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June 7, 2009	Articles for deletion	Kept
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A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 9, 2009. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Sara Northrup Hollister, the second wife of L. Ron Hubbard, was a noted member of an occult society in Pasadena, California, who went on to play an important role in the development of Dianetics?
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Regarding source for name

See [1], and [2]. Cirt (talk) 17:04, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixes someone else can do

Just leaving this here. Since someone thinks I'm stepping on their toes, someone else can do these edits if they want to, cuz I'm out.

The Evans citation: Add |ol=5438675M
Add a timestamp to the "Secret Lives" citation: |time=18:52–19:30 (time stamp obtained via YouTube)
I'm quote fond of using |ol= in citations whenever OpenLibrary.org has an ebook version available (makes for easy verifications... and googlebooks sucks) and using |title-link= whenever there's a Wikipedia article for a book. Here are some better citation structures for four of the book used in this article. ^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]
Freedom magazine is blacklisted, so that might also suggest not quoting from it. Also, see WP:MANDY.
- If you decide to keep it, then cite magazine, not cite web (gives error message due to missing URL). Here's the URL if you're interested → https://www.freedommag.org/going-clear/videos/alex-gibney-stacking-the-deck.html
The citation using "5106C28" refers to a quote that comes from an obscure version of tape II, not tape I. Due to physical limitations of the tape material and recording devices, when Hubbard spoke longer than, say, 1.5 hours, his recordings wound up on two separate tapes. They were cataloged separately and sold to students as two separate tapes. If you do nothing else, at least say "part II".
- By obscure, I mean that three of the sentences in the quote ("Every effort was made to butcher my personal reputation. A young girl is nearly dead because of this effort. My wife Sara.") do not appear in some versions of the transcripts for the lecture. It is not unusual for the Church of Scientology to excise audio from a lecture and modify the published transcripts to match their revisionist histories. The version I was able to locate with the three sentences was a Word DOC file from 1998, origin unknown.

Grorp (talk) 05:09, 11 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[atack-1] Atack, Jon (1990). A Piece of Blue Sky: Scientology, Dianetics and L. Ron Hubbard Exposed. Lyle Stuart Books. ISBN 081840499X. OL 9429654M.

[corydon-2] Corydon, Bent (1987). L. Ron Hubbard, Messiah or Madman?. Lyle Stuart. ISBN 0818404442.

[miller-3] Miller, Russell (1987). Bare-faced Messiah : The True Story of L. Ron Hubbard. Henry Holt and Company. ISBN 0805006540. OL 26305813M.

[wright-4] Wright, Lawrence (2013). Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood and the Prison of Belief. Alfred A. Knopf. ISBN 9780307700667. OL 25424776M.

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