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Historically significant and notable

If all of history is left to presidents and generals and royalty and rich people what a boring history we would have.

Sanford Ransdell is a good example of someone who is of historical interest because of his participation in the historically significant and famous Battle of Tippecanoe and because he was not a member of the elite class in America.

He was a soldier and early settler of Indiana. His accomplishments are notable and the fact that there is enough information about his life available to create such an article is significant too.

This article is supported by the Military work group and United States military history task force. Ransdell is historically significant in Indiana as being one of the territories early settlers, add his participation in the Battle of Tippecanoe and his connection to the Noah Beauchamp affair (which still makes the newspapers 150 years later) and his significance and notability and historical ineterest is established..

I'm sorry that you don't care for the style the article is written in you could easily recitfy that by editing the article yourself. Dwain 18:27, 29 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AFD

Several things I thought I'd highlight here so that you have a chance to save this article and establish its notability. Kevin raises a good point in the AfD, and I'll quote it here:

Of the 14 footnotes in the article as of this minute, only 4 or 5 actually appear to pertain to the subject of this article, and none of those appear to establish notability -- they just list him as a soldier who enrolled (note 5), was one of a thousand who took part in a battle (notes 1 & 2), and mustered out (note 8). This is standard genealogy -- we could find similar information about thousands upon thousands of other soldiers who are listed in muster rolls. Why is this guy notable among the thousand soldiers at Tippecanoe? The article still does not say. A quote from one or both of the two Battle of Tippecanoe books which mention him would quickly dispel my objections

If you can type out here where he's mentioned in the books on the Battle of Tippecanoe we can determine if it's a non-trivial mention of him and thereby establish his notability in regards to his role in that battle. Also, this might be of interest too: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history#Notability --plange 04:51, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well Plange, thanks for all your help! I've wasted too much time trying to locate more sources. I still have e-mail out to people concerning references. I think that he is a notable figure especially with the combination of events that he is connected with. Again thank you for your valid respones in helping to improve the article and determine its status. Dwain 05:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Whatever you can do to satisfy Kevin would be huge, as that's a crucial vote on the AFD. You'll need to get the page numbers anyway for those books for the article, so it shouldn't be too much more effort to type out what it says about him. I know you believe he's notable, but you need to establish that for others :-) --plange 05:49, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]