Talk:Sandy Stimpson

Past edit warring

@BigDwiki:, please explain why you insist on using slanted/embellished language. You say Stimpson’s promise “backfired” but provide no proof for such. How did it backfire? Who (besides you) says it backfired? Southsky (talk) 20:33, 18 January 2019

@BigDwiki:, please explain why you are trying to revert these edits. You are reverting to edits which have non public use images as well as slanted language and uncited crime statistics.Southsky (talk) 18:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Son's Arrest

Sandy Stimpson's son's arrest and subsequent guilty plea is indeed relevant, both because of his character, and because of his comments on the matter: http://www.gulflive.com/news/index.ssf/2015/05/mobile_alabama_mayor_sandy_sti.html BigDwiki (talk) 20:11, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Then that should be added to the citations, as the existing two do not have content about Sandy. David notMD (talk) 20:42, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Done!BigDwiki (talk) 01:07, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Campaign Promises section

@BigDwiki:, it appears your efforts to inject your personal bias against this individual has clouded this page's authenticity. In the section I have deleted due to many errors, you note "that many in the community have criticized as being unachievable" but yet provide no sourcing. If you want to inject your opinion, you should probably at least make sure that it is corroborated by facts. You mention undated crime stats from 2017 in the next sentence. In 2018, the most recent full year, homicides were down considerably (https://www.fox10tv.com/news/mobile-homicide-rate-down-percent-in/article_edfbd966-0ed7-11e9-aef8-67f630b105c1.html). The final claim of officer and civilian deaths is unfounded. Stimpson has been in office for over 5 years.

Thanks for this. I will make sure to source all of the claims made in the article.BigDwiki (talk) 17:15, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

You reverted my edits and did not cite anything new. I have made further edits. Please refrain from injecting your bias into this page. Southsky (talk) 18:08, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Call it bias if you want, the article was a cesspool of self-promotion, undoubtedly from the Mayor's army of PR employees (not surprisingly the subject of the mayor-council lawsuit), before I started working on it. Every edit is properly sourced and the facts speak for themselves. If you claim my edits adding the negative side of this mayor's administration as an opposing viewpoint to the overwhelmingly positive content written by his PR staff, what do you call your edits, if not bias themselves? BigDwiki (talk) 18:57, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

My edits are backed by sources. Yours, before my edits, were not properly backed and clearly stated your opinions, such as "that many in the community have criticized as being unachievable" or the claim about 5 officers being killed. Neither were backed with evidence and one was a blatant falsehood. The trial between the administration and the council is still ongoing. You took the court deciding on a motion in the council's favor as the administration losing the suit to the council. It's funny you bring up this page from before you started working on it... before you started editing this page, there was no banner stating there are multiple issues on this page. I wonder why that is? Southsky (talk) 02:56, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Lots of unencyclopedic content, edit wars

Been working on this article over the past few days; trying to edit out major biases that likely fall under BLP rules and I suspect may be due to the subject editing the article themselves or through a proxy. I'm currently keeping an active eye on the article, as multiple accounts with similar bias and tone have edited it since creation. --Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 03:24, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Rolled back an edit that removed racial connotation of actions with a specific group---the references specifically reference and state this. Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 04:15, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Wrt Stimpson's son's arrest

There's been some debate on whether the arrest of Stimpson's son is relevant to this page, and since the discussion above on the matter is a few years outdated, I think it would be good to bring it up again. I agree with the previous consensus reached, which is that since a statement was offered by Stimpson as mayor it does belong in the article (updated source from above, which is now a broken link: Alabama mayor Sandy Stimpson's statement on son's arrest for impersonating officer). I think it could be better written, or maybe in a different section. It is part of his work as mayor in the end, the way I see it. I'm very open to discussion on the matter. --Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 13:11, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Since it has been over a month with no responses, if there's not any issue with reinstating that part of the section raised within another month (I know this is a small article), then I or another editor should put it back in. --Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 17:57, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

I am reinstating the previous version of the article including Stimpson's sons arrest. If there are any objections, please use this thread for discussion. There has been ample time for discussion. --Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 23:56, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

@Marx01: I'm afraid that's not how it works. In the absence of a consensus to add the challenged-and -removed content, it should stay out. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:40, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

@Deepfriedokra:Hm, okay. I misunderstood the previous situation then. I'll revert the changes. --Marx01 ^{Tell me about it} 14:06, 8 October 2020 (UTC)