Talk:Sand Lake, New York

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As others have mentioned, this entire article is obviously lifted word for word from some other very old source. This is given away by mention of "biographical details included in this work" when describing a town resident.

As a result of this, the article suffers from numerous problems. The language is out of date (I started to try to clean that up till I realized this entire article was plagiarized.) It is not in an encyclopedic tone, using "weasel words" to boost the town and individuals. The article is written from the perspective of the information being current when it is clearly decades old, if not longer. The history section is incredibly over detailed. It is not neccessary or desirable for an article to try to list all of the town's early residents. I would suggest this article be deleted and rewritten from scratch in line with the format of articles about other small towns.

WOW! This article is LONG, no breaks or categories, and LOTS of errors. Could someone please clean this up?! The hamlet of Sand Lake is not called Sand Lake village by anyone, Averill Park has never and is not independant of the town, and was never called West Sand Lake (which happens to be larger in pop. than Averill Park). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camelbinky (talk • contribs) 05:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reading further into I am pretty sure this entire article either was lifted wholly from another source (and an OLD one at that) or is entirely original research. The use of centre instead of center, information about the railroad, and the post office being new and near it and there being fine hotels all in Averill Park...I'm not entirely sure if the author of that information has been in Averill Park in the last 100 years, I'm VERY certain that's when the information was originally compiled. South Sand Lake? The hamlet name no longer exists and neither does the post office that is mentioned as being there!Camelbinky (talk) 05:32, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The information that was cited in this article was written in 1897 - hence the differences in the town to date. Before criticizing you should investigate further... Resident of Averill Park. March 9, 2012.

-Resident- That is precisely the problem. A wikipedia article should not be a copy of an article written in 1897. I realize this reply is essentially a "necro" but your reference to investigating further is cryptic. You seem to be suggesting some justification for reposting an antiquated article, and i can't see one. The age of the article isn't a justification of the things being criticized. It is against wikipedia policy to wholly repost other works.

If this article isn't cleaned up in the next week or two by someone else, I'll be doing it. Major hacking and removal will be involved. Fair warning. Famartin (talk) 11:32, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Huge blocks of uncited content

I wonder if the huge blocks of uncited content are original research. Unless someone is interested in finding sources for all of this information, that goes into greater family history than usual in an article about a town, it seems to me that it's better to delete the information and fold in higher level and more specific to the town's history. There is some information in the History section that should go into other sections... again, though, it requires research to find sources.

In my experience it's generally much easier to research and write anew, rather than working back from uncited content. In addition, it's much more reliable for finding information about the town that might not be in the uncited content.

Does anyone have any thoughts about that?–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:26, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw the comment from Famartin. It looks like someone else is as gobsmacked about the article... and no one had stepped in to research / rewrite the article.

I just removed big blocks of uncited content from this version. And I will check out paragraphs that end with one citation to ensure it covers all the content there + look for information to add to the article from reliable sources.–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:35, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My take from the research so far, it looks like the blocks of uncited text came from this book (or web sites which also have content from this source), starting on page 510. Since it was published in 1897, there are no copyright violations. But for brevity, it is good to summarize much of the content. It also means that this information is so old that other more modern sources are needed as well.–CaroleHenson (talk) 23:53, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hamlets

Should Taborton, New York be added to the list of Hamlets? Cause it has a Wikipedia page so I was thinking maybe it was of some significance. NintendoTTTEfan2005 (talk) 03:39, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am a little confused by that article. Under its name in the infobox is "Georgetown". The content of the article says it's a hamlet of Sand Lake, but the citation is for google maps. If there is a good citation that says Tabortown is part of Sand Lake, sure it could be added.–CaroleHenson (talk) 17:49, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]