Talk:Samurai Jack season 5

A fact from Samurai Jack season 5 appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 June 2016 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the fifth season of Samurai Jack will continue from the last episode aired in 2004?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2016/June.

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Removed "Story" Section

I was at the Comic-Con panel, and literally nothing was said implying that Jack would die but kill Aku at his strongest.

AmmarTheGreat (talk) 09:06, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That was vandalism. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 11:35, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize then, and I see that someone re-added "Story" with more accurate information which was what I was waiting for (I wasn't entirely confident in my own ability to give a proper summary of information known). My intent was just to remove inaccurate information/unverifiable (I doubt the show has already been spoiled). AmmarTheGreat (talk) 17:36, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Circular sourcing

Anonymous contributor claims Phil Lamarr "declined to confirm that he would return to voice the title character, but noted the significance of his not being allowed to confirm or deny his involvement."
Six months later lazy "journalists" assert that "Phil LaMarr dodged questions about his return in the new season. However, he finally came clean at AwesomeCon 2016" (Lynette Guzman, goshtv.net) or "the actor was later able to do so following an appearance at AwesomeCon 2016." (Megan Peters, comicbook.com)

Thus, what was an uncited claim about Lamarr not confirming anything at AwesomeCon 2016 became verifiable information from two "reliable sources" that say Lamarr did confirm his reprisal of the role of Jack at AwesomeCon 2016. Not only did these journalists report uncited information they found on Wikipedia, they misread it and reported the opposite of what it said. Subsequently, one of the reports was cited on Wikipedia for the very same information that spawned the contradictory information in the reports.

Bad, bad journalists. No citation for you. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 21:42, 24 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable data on Roman numerals

The source states that the first season five episodes will be XCII, XCIII, XCIV, and XCV. Since these are in actuality the 53rd—56th episodes of the series, I question the validity of the source. The above Roman numerals represent 92 thru 95 respectively. — CobraWiki ^{( jabber | stuff )} 22:45, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's a valid concern. Thankfully the episode titles are corroborated by Adult Swim's electronic program guide and IGN. Worst comes to worst, we'll fix it once the episode airs. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 23:44, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Since it turns out those are the actual episode numbers, I've been wondering if they were planning more episodes set earlier, or if perhaps the missing numbers were just meant to reference the missing years. Any word?

And weren't the original episodes given Roman numeral titles onscreen? So do these episodes have real titles as well? B7T (talk) 07:55, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good question, very likely no. The original episodes were listed in TV guides (and later, on digital media) with their alternate titles. Season 5 episodes were never listed anywhere with alternate titles. Bright☀ 08:37, 28 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lead section

"currently airing" - avoid per MOS:DATED: "For current and future events, use phrases like as of March 2017 or since the beginning of 2017 to signal the time-dependence of the information." Hence "It premiered on the Toonami programming block of Adult Swim on March 11, 2017" is preferable to "is currently airing".
WP:TVLEAD - "begin with basic information about the show, such as when it first premiered, genre(s) and setting, who created/developed the show, its primary broadcasting station (typically the studio that produces the show)" - again avoid "currently airing" in favor of basic information (first and second sentences), premiere (third sentence), original broadcasting network (fourth sentence), and creator/developer (fifth sentences). Pretty much sentence-for-sentence follows the MOS.

I would say that the MOS-following version of the lead is preferable to the dated version of the lead. BrightRoundCircle (talk) 17:22, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"fifth and final season" in bold - this doesn't make any sense. The title of the article is "Samurai Jack (season 5)". If anything has to be in bold, it should be "the fifth season of Samurai Jack". BrightRoundCircle (talk) 22:57, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Cast" vs "Voice cast"

There's only one cast for this work, so the "voice" in "voice cast" is redundant. The header should be "cast", unless there's some other cast. Bright☀ 14:47, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Spoilers in summary of episodes 9 and 10

As the episodes are unreleased and they are the 2 final and climactic episodes of the entire TV series, I believe it is highly unethical to be posting the summary of them without any spoiler warning of any sort. An exception must to be made to the wikipedia guidelines until the episodes have been aired. I understand why spoiler warnings are no longer included around wikipedia but the guidelines do not cover summaries of yet to be released content. I hope there can be others who agree with me on this. Sherwelbuilding (talk) 14:45, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for discussing this! This particular topic has been endlessly discussed, see Wikipedia talk:Spoiler for years and years worth of discussion. The relevant guideline for spoiler warnings is WP:DISCLAIMERS - there is consensus for not using disclaimers on Wikipedia - no spoiler warnings.

From the other end, why should we include episode summaries for episodes that haven't aired yet? All I can say is that it's a summary of encyclopedic details. An article about the fifth season of Samurai Jack should contain a summary of the plot details of the fifth season of Samurai Jack, it goes almost without saying that the plot is a major part of the work. Whether the episode aired or not, it exists. It's been written and storyboarded and voice-recorded (and possibly animated, but we don't have a source saying that yet). Even if it never airs, the available information about it is pertinent to the fifth season.

In short, readers of Wikipedia aren't shielded from information that they should expect to find in the encyclopedic article they're reading, including plot details. Bright☀ 15:19, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

This article's reception section needs additions that cover critically the entire season. Here are two suggestions ; http://collider.com/samurai-jack-season-5-finale-explained/, http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/05/30/samurai_jack_was_tv_s_most_poignant_depiction_of_loneliness.html. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30a:c001:9a00:b816:3a8a:f1:1ba4 (talk) 04:36, June 4, 2017‎(UTC)

Thank you. The Collider article appears to be very low-quality and pretty much a rehash of the Wikipedia article with no research or analysis. The Slate article is better and could probably be incorporated into the "themes" section regarding loneliness. Bright☀ 13:24, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for responding and I'm sorry I'm a few days late. I've found another article that might be worth integrating somewhere into the page. https://www.wired.com/2017/05/samurai-jack-revival/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30A:C001:9A00:B590:23DD:3889:D121 (talk) 22:27, 5 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, you are a volunteer and you choose your own time table. Changes like these have no deadline, and they usually take weeks or months, so there's no hurry. Bright☀ 05:09, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cover image vs teaser poster

The teaser poster has the wrong year on it and only features a silhouette of Jack. I think the digital download cover image is preferable. Bright☀ 16:24, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Final Chapter spoiler

This episode be titled as "The Final Chapter". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.222.88.10 (talk • contribs) 04:14, October 25, 2017 (UTC)

Can this information be sourced? Both the episode itself and the digital distributors (iTunes, Amazon, etc) title it "CI". Bright☀ 10:51, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Whoa, what a freak! Looked like a talking penis." listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Whoa, what a freak! Looked like a talking penis.. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 October 16#Whoa, what a freak! Looked like a talking penis. until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 06:30, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]